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I am researching the descendants of this person and I’m finding some difficulty in following him through the census records.
William Stanbury b.1796 Hatherleigh (parents Peter & Ann) married Mary Maunder b.1794 Plymouth, on 22 Dec 1816 at St Andrews, Plymouth.
They had 3 children:
1) Mary Ann Stanbury b.1817 Plymouth – marries Samuel Bagshaw in 1838 Pembroke.
2) Peter Angel Stanbury b.1820 Plymouth – marries Mary Harris, in Monkton, Pembs in 1841
3) William Angel Stanbury b.1826 Plymouth – marries Ann Howells in 1848 at Pembroke Dock
I had been told by a relative that William Stanbury had died in 1867 in Pembroke Dock. My grandmother was born in Pembroke Dock so at some point William Stanbury and/or his daughter Mary Ann (my line) moved from Devon to Pembrokeshire.
On William b.1796’s marriage record he is listed as a mariner. His son William b.1826 was also a mariner. His 3 children married in Pembrokeshire but I can't find concrete evidence of William in the census records.
1841 William Stanbury b. 1796 – living Devon, with dau Jane b.1826
1851 Mary Ann Stanbury b.1827 housekeeper born Steyton, tog. With Mary Stanbury (mmn Maunder?) mother-in-law b.1786 married (captain’s wife lodger) born Plymouth, Mary Stansbury 17m born Milford and Samuel Bagshaw lodge b.1846 Pembrokeshire. All residing in Back Road, Steynton, Haverfordwest.
1851 William Stanbury b.1795 widower born Plymouth, occupation Leich R N employed in Coastguard, tog. With unmarr dau Jane E b.1825 Plymouth and grand dau Sarah born 1845 Plymouth. All residing Greenway Station, Coast Guard, Rottingdean, Lewes, Sussex.
1861 William Stanbury b.1797 widower, Master Mariner Pensioner of Merchant Funds, born Hatherleigh, residing Victoria Road Steynton, Haverfordwest.
1861 William Stanbury b.1796 widower b.1796 Retired Commander R N, born Devonport, tog. with grand dau Sarah E born 1849 Plymouth. Both residing in Brighton, Sussex.
In the first 1851 above could it be that Mary’s husband Peter Stanbury is away at sea? She has a young child and perhaps mother-in-law Mary is staying with her offering help? Maybe William senior is not with them because he, too, is at sea? This Samuel Bagshaw eventually marries Mary Ann Stanbury b.1817 but haven’t worked out why he is staying with this family at this time. I think this is my family.
I think I am finding two families. What do people think?
Did William move to west Wales – if so, is it possible to know when?
When did Mary Stanbury die (William is a widower by 1861)?
Did William Stanbury die in Pembroke Dock on 17 Aug 1867?
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.
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I don't immediately have an answer for you, but wanted to register an interest because Peter STANBURY and Anne ANGEL are my greatx5 grandparents through their daughter Ann who married John FEWINGS. I haven't yet followed any of their other children down, but it will be an interesting challenge for the wet days ahead! I'll let you know if I find anything.
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Thanks Arishmell - I'm sure there will be plenty of wet days on the way. :)
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Welshnewspapers online - Mary Stanbury
https://newspapers.library.wales
search key = stanbury and use date slider bars to restrict search to 1858
I originally checked for stanbury, no date restrictions and checked results decade by decade (filters). You may wish to do same
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A William STANBURY aged 71 died in Pembroke district 1867 so born 1796. The burial states his address was Pembroke Dock. You'll need to obtain the death certificate to see who was the informant and may be a possible clue. He appears to be the one shown in the 1861 census for Pembrokeshire, born Hatherleigh.
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Bingo! Great result from the Rootschat team. So Mary Stanbury died on 15 October 1858 which ties in with William senior living at Pembroke Dock when he died on 1867. I have Mary mmn Maunder's baptism 10 Sept 1794 but this has to be the right person. Thank you.
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In the 1841 census I have found a Mary T Stanbury age 50 born Devon, with an Elizabeth Stanbury (age not clear, but she was not born in Devon). This Mary is a school mistress and Elizabeth has independence means. The address is Islands, Plympton Maurice, Plympton St May, Devon.
This is the same address as for William Stanbury with a Jane B Stanbury in the 1841 census. The same William and dau Jane (with grand dau Sarah) in the 1851 census who now live in Sussex.
Mary Stanbury lodging with her daughter in law in Haverfordwest in 1851 without her husband, although it states she is married.
Could they have separated? And who are Elizabeth and Jane B?
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I'm sorry, but I'm not convinced the Lieut. William Stanbury in the 1851 & 1861 census's is your ancestor. The reason I say this is because O'Byrne's Naval Biography has him serving on ships where, according to records at the National Archives, he allotted some of his pay to his mother Jenifer, which is contrary to the parents of the William you are attempting to trace ( http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16476023 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16476023))
Martin
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I take your point Martin, I've never been happy with my findings on this man.
I know for definite that Margaret Ann Bagshaw b.1857 Pembroke Dock married James Lee Rees b.1857 Steynton in 1878. They were my 2 x great grandparents.
I'm confident that Margaret's parents were Samuel Bagshaw b.1819 Tenby and Mary Ann Angel Stanbury b.1817 Plymouth.
Not so sure but still think that Mary Ann Angel Stanbury's parents were William Stanbury b.1796 Hatherleigh and Mary Maunder b.1794 Plymouth.
Again I've thought that William Stanbury's parents were Peter Stanbury b.1754 Inwardleigh and Ann Angell b.1757 Hatherleigh.
On the marriage image for Samuel Bagshaw to Mary Ann Stanbury, her father, William is listed as a mariner. If he did relocate from Devon to Pembrokeshire I was reasoning that he would have most probably been a mariner of sorts.
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Just another googly for you, there is a record at the NA for a James Angell Stanbury with yet different parents! Given the unusual middle name one has to wonder if there is a family connection?
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14934386 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14934386)
Martin
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FindMyPast has 4 mariner records for a Wm/William Stanbury, 1795/1797 - born Hatherleigh/Hatherly?
There are other possible records for a Willaim Stanbury/Stansbury, born Plymouth.
One mentions "... master, Pembroke Castle ..."
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Can you please tell me how to find the one that says "Master, Pembroke Castle"? I've tried putting this into the keywords bit without success. :'(
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Again I've thought that William Stanbury's parents were Peter Stanbury b.1754 Inwardleigh and Ann Angell b.1757 Hatherleigh.
I have proved to my own satisfaction that my greatx5 grandfather Peter STANBURY who married Ann ANGEL is NOT Peter STANBURY son of Samuel and Mary, baptised Inwardleigh 28 Apr 1754. This Peter married Martha YEO 27 Mar 1780 at Inwardleigh
I have also checked and discounted a possible will:
1078/IRW/S/1335 1818
These documents are held at Devon Record Office
Contents:
Peter Stanbury of Inwardleigh, Devon
The will refers to his wife Martha.
I have not identified Peter STANBURY, though I have Ann ANGEL's line back to the 1600s.
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Can you please tell me how to find the one that says "Master, Pembroke Castle"? I've tried putting this into the keywords bit without success. :'(
Why not just search for "william stanbury, born 1795 +/- 2 years" and check the 4 hits returned.
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https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3328660/3328663/18/
see "Ship News - Milford arrived"
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Arishmell, have you considered whether my William's parents were the Peter and Anna Stanbury who baptised their William on 25 Dec 1795 in Bickleigh, Plymouth?
I think I have found a burial for Peter in Bickleigh, Plymouth on 27 Oct 1816 for him which gives a birth year of 1760. Also a possible baptism for him onn 24 August 1766 at St Giles on the Heath (father: William, mother: Mary).
St Giles on the Heath is about 25 miles from Hatherleigh, and slightly longer to Bickleigh, Plymouth.
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I have no doubt that William STANBURY who married Mary MAUNDER is the son of Peter STANBURY and Ann ANGEL, baptised Hatherleigh 4 Oct 1796. Their three children were all given the middle name ANGEL, and one of the witnesses at the marriage was Margaret FELIX. William's older sister Margaret (baptised Hatherleigh 27 Jun 1788) married Edward FELIX 13 Jul 1807 in East Stonehouse.
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Coastguard "sightings"
Naval and Military Gazette & Weekly Chronicle of the United Services, 31 July 1841
"NAVAL INTELLIGENCE - Coast Guard
Lieutenant - William Stanbury (1815) to be Chief Officer"
Shipping and Mercantile Gazette, 30 Dec 1850
"ROYAL NAVY
The following coastguard removals have taken place - Lieutenants: ...; William Stanbury, from the Enchantress, to Greenway coastguard station; ..."
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Brighton Gazette, 28 Oct 1841
It carries a report of " ... the preventative men of the Enchantress station, under the command of Lieutenant Stanbury ... " attempting to save a French sloop in difficulties.
It mentions "He (ie. Lt Stanbury) then, accompanied by his son, at the utmost peril of life ..."
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Revisiting the baptisms of Peter and Ann Stanbury who baptised all their children in Hatherleigh between 1786 and 1802, I noticed that on the baptism of Peter Stanbury on 14 Nov 1790 the word "pauper" is listed. Not on all of the others though.
Then I picked up on the ship news entry on the welsh newspapers on line …. Arrived - Milford, the Pembroke Castle, Stanbury 19 Dec 1835.
Transcriptions of British merchant seamen, 1835-57 … where I was found several entries for Stanbury's.
55.421 - Peter Stanbury, 23, Plymouth dates in 1843 with ship names, rank (not clear)
55.422 - William Stanbury, 41, Devonshire date that looks like 1845 and ship name, rank (unclear, Sd?)
55.423 - Peter Stanbury, 53, Hatherleigh, date in 1844 and ship name, rank CK
55.417 - William Stanbury, 46, Hatherleigh, dates in 1843 and the ships names "Pembroke Castle". Rank C.
Entry 55.417 - this William Stanbury surely must be same person arriving on the Pembroke Castle at Milford in 1835? This entry gives the correct birth year and birth place as my William.
I can't clearly understanding the ranking abbreviations on these entries. Knowing if entry 55.417 was a ship's captain would help me with identifying the William Stanburys in the census records.
Your thoughts please.
Also, wondering whether 55.423 could have been William's older brother Peter Stanbury. Correct birth year and place.
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I usually refer to this guide when checking records -
http://nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/abbreviations-merchant-seamens-records/
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Thanks, a useful reference - I'll save that.
So 55.417 was Captain on the ship and 55.423 was a cook.(I can't make out the other two though).
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Bingo! Great result from the Rootschat team. So Mary Stanbury died on 15 October 1858 which ties in with William senior living at Pembroke Dock when he died on 1867. I have Mary mmn Maunder's baptism 10 Sept 1794 but this has to be the right person. Thank you.
Just to clarify - William Stanbury, R.N/Coastguard, was a widower on the 1851 Census.
The Mary that died 1858 would appear to fit the 1851 Census entry for -
Mary Stanbury, age 65, mother in law, Captain's wife lodger, born Plymouth
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I still think that the 1851 census entry for Mary Stanbury (mother-in-law) married birth year 1786 Captains wife, lodge, born Plymouth, Devon is right. William might be at sea for this census. I'm guessing that Mary Ann Stanbury (head) must be her daughter in law who was married to Peter Stanbury, Mary's son. He fits the bill as the cook on the British Merchant Seamen list below. As he is not listed, he would also be at sea.
But the main reason I still think these folk are mine is the lodger, Samuel Bagshaw, living with them - he was my great grand uncle and who eventually went on to marry Margaret Ann Angel Stanbury.
I still don't have a record for William or Mary in 1841 - could they both be at sea?
I think I'm saying William is at sea in 1851.
And William :-[ is the person I quote on the 1861 census, as a widower living in Haverfordwest - a Master Mariner Pension of Merchant Funds. He is dead by the 1871 census.
Do you agree?
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Thanks - just wanted to rule out William the coastguard ie.
1) William Stanbury (Lieut RN) married Theresa Anderson 6 Feb 1817, Plympton
2) Jane Elizabeth Parrimore Stanbury, bap 20 Mar 1823, parents William (Lieut RN) and Theresa
3) GRO Death registration Theresa Stanbury, Mar Qtr 1851, Lewes, age 64
Re. "Mary Stanbury, died Oct 14 1858, residence Milford, age 75" (parish burial register) and "Mary, age 75, wife of Captain W. Stanbury" (newspaper death notice) the age at death does not "fit" the Mary Maunder, born 1794 - your initial post. I can see a Mary Maunder bap 1783 (Saltash) and 1785 (Devonport) as possibles.
Note - cannot find a GRO death registartion for this Mary.
There's a Mary Stanbury/Felix link at HO107 274 25 45
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Also, wondering whether 55.423 could have been William's older brother Peter Stanbury. Correct birth year and place.
Peter Stanbury was a Royal Navy man, he married his first wife Sarah Valdrey in 1818 in Portsmouth, Hampshire, and they are together in Stoke Damerel in 1851 where he is a Greenwich Pensioner.
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Revisiting the baptisms of Peter and Ann Stanbury who baptised all their children in Hatherleigh between 1786 and 1802, I noticed that on the baptism of Peter Stanbury on 14 Nov 1790 the word "pauper" is listed. Not on all of the others though.
Peter STANBURY and Ann ANGEL married in 1781 but did not start baptising children in Hatherleigh until 1786. I wonder if there were any earlier children elsewhere? There is an Elizabeth STANBERRY daughter of Peter and Ann baptised in Brixham in 1784. It might fit with Peter being a seafarer who "swallowed the anchor" and settled down inland where his wife's family were well established. but whose sons went to sea in their turn. I can't find anything else about this Elizabeth though!
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I have inherited a very old part of a tree from Thomas Angell down to my mother, which, I was told was created after her father went down to London to research the information. Of Peter Stanbury and Ann Angell it states that they had 4 sons and 4 daughters 1784 - 1802 (no actual names/birth dates) just William born 1796, died 1867. I had inserted a female unknown entry for 1784 in my tree.
I had seen the birth of Elizabeth Stanberry on 7 March 1784 at Brixham (Peter and Ann Stanbury) but had discounted it, as it was out of the area. But supposing they had for some reason started off their married life away from Hatherleigh it's possible they could have lived in Brixham. I found a burial of an Elizabeth Stanbury on 6 May 1788 at Bere Ferrers. The thing is, Peter & Ann were having children at Hatherleigh by then, so its unlikely that this Elizabeth could not have been theirs.
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[/quote]But the main reason I still think these folk are mine is the lodger, Samuel Bagshaw, living with them - he was my great grand uncle and who eventually went on to marry Margaret Ann Angel Stanbury.
Just realised the last bit is wrong. Samuel Bagshaw b.1818 married Margaret Ann Angel Stanbury. The lodger Samuel Bagshaw b.1846 in the 1851 census was the grandson of Mary Stanbury. For some reason he is staying in Haverfordwest in the household of his aunt and not with his mother, father and siblings William, Mary Ann and Sarah in Saint Mary, Pembroke. :-\
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Hi there,
I realize this post is several years old, but hoping you're still interested. I noted your comments about the Elizabeth Stanbury bap at Brixham in 1784. She is my ancestor and she was the daughter of Peter Stanbury and Ann Angell. She married ? Smith firstly, and secondly Richard Heard in 1810 at East Stonehouse. Richard was a mariner. They named some of their children as follows: Ann Angel Heard and Jemima Jane Stanbury Heard. In the 1851 census Elizabeth gives her birthplace as Brixham. Their daughter who is my ancestor Elizabeth Peters Heard married Philip Thomas Nancollas Bennett. In the 1881 census she is living with her cousin, Mary Friend. This Mary is Mary Fewins b. abt 1831 Hatherleigh d/o John Fewins and Ann Stanbury, which further cements the connection.
I have been working with some Stanbury DNA matches through Ancestry. An intriguing match is a descendant of Jane Stanbury b. abt 1780 and married William Collins in 1809 at Okehampton. I am just trying to work out her parentage, there are 3 candidates, but one possibility goes back to Samuel of Mary of Inwardleigh.
Cody
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Hi Cody
Thank you for taking an interest in my post and your contribution to the identity of Elizabeth Stanbury baptised at Brixham in 1784. I need to look back at my tree to refresh my memory of the family. It's great that more information is coming to light as obviously there are many descendants of the Stanbury/Angell family out there.
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Hello Cody, you and I have corresponded before about our ancestors and relations. I'm not sure why you think Elizabeth married a Smith? FamilySearch has images of the Marriage Bond and Marriage Licence, both dated 26 November 1810. Both describe her as Elizabeth Stanbury, an unmarried woman above the age of twentyone. Richard was a seaman on HM Ship Rhin. They don't seem to have a record of the actual marriage though, and I cant find it anywhere else.
Happy New Year, and happy hunting!
(edited to add, I have now found the transcription of the marriage on FindMyPast, which does indeed show Elizabeth as SMITH. In the absence of the actual image, I am going to take that as a mistake.)
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Hi Maureen, I did send you an email to the last one I had on file, so just following up to see if you received it.
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Sorry Cody, got distracted by the 1921 census. Out of sight, out of mind! I'll get back to you!
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Again I've thought that William Stanbury's parents were Peter Stanbury b.1754 Inwardleigh and Ann Angell b.1757 Hatherleigh.
I have proved to my own satisfaction that my greatx5 grandfather Peter STANBURY who married Ann ANGEL is NOT Peter STANBURY son of Samuel and Mary, baptised Inwardleigh 28 Apr 1754. This Peter married Martha YEO 27 Mar 1780 at Inwardleigh
I have also checked and discounted a possible will:
1078/IRW/S/1335 1818
These documents are held at Devon Record Office
Contents:
Peter Stanbury of Inwardleigh, Devon
The will refers to his wife Martha.
I have not identified Peter STANBURY, though I have Ann ANGEL's line back to the 1600s.
Just wonder if you've had any more luck in identifying Peter Stanbury, maybe finding a burial record for him. There's a burial 1832 East Stonehouse which is where daughter Elizabeth married, so could he have ended his days there? YOB is 1752. No obvious burial for wife Ann in East Stonehouse but there is one 1806 Plymouth St Andrew, but no notes to it. Could the family have moved to Plymouth and father Peter moved in with daughter Elizabeth after wife Ann died?
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Still no clue as to the identity of Peter Stanbury, I had another try yesterday. I believe Peter died 1816 in Bickleigh, Plymouth, aged 56 which would mean he was more or less the same age as Ann. "Ann Stanbury wife of Peter Stanbury" was buried in Bickleigh in 1804.
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Still no clue as to the identity of Peter Stanbury, I had another try yesterday. I believe Peter died 1816 in Bickleigh, Plymouth, aged 56 which would mean he was more or less the same age as Ann. "Ann Stanbury wife of Peter Stanbury" was buried in Bickleigh in 1804.
Isn't this couple more likely to be Peter Stanberry and Ann Towl who married 1793 in Bickleigh then had Ann 1794, William 1795, Henry 1797, John 1800 and Anna 1803?
Given several of Peter Stanbury and Ann Angel's children moved to Plymouth, isn't it possible the parents went with them?
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AAAAGGGHH! These Stanburys! You're more than likely right about the other couple. I hadn't really come across them, and knowing the Plymouth connection and the records saying 'Bickleigh, Plymouth' I jumped on them. Yes, I think the parents did follow the children to Plymouth. Why are they so hard to find?!
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Not sure why this line is so difficult ???
There’s another Stanbury family bp in Hatherleigh who moved to Plymouth, one in particular being Henry bp 1805 to John Stanbury and Grace Lang who married 1793 South Tawton. There is another marriage for John Stanbury to Grace Cock 1791 St Giles in the Wood, but the groom was from Weare Giffard and there are bps for this couple in the latter parish. Also, Henry names one of his daughters Mary Lang Stanbury, and Grace Lang’s mother was Mary.
Henry was a baker and confectioner in East Stonehouse, and it’s possible that his father, John, died there in 1824 with YOB 1777. There’s a bp for John Stanbury 1777 in St Giles in the Heath, but also two possible marriages there for this John: to Elizabeth Greenaway in 1804 and Grace (confusingly) Lillecrap in 1816. There’s also a possible burial for him in 1857 (YOB 1776) and a Will that mentions children by both these marriages. So not the father of Henry bp 1805 Hatherleigh…?
With Peter Stanbury who married Ann Angel, if the burial 1832 in East Stonehouse was him, YOB is 1752. Again, there’s a bp for Peter Stanbury 1751 St Giles in the Heath but, again, a possible marriage for this Peter to Mary Tubb in 1777 in the same parish, with children’s bps there from 1778 to 1795. A burial in 1809 has Admin to widow Mary and son Samuel. So not Peter who married Ann Angel…?
Were John and Peter Stanbury who bp’d children in Hatherleigh related? John appears to have been a serge maker (from son Francis' marriage in 1837) and his offspring seem to be bakers and grocers (son James moved to London and died in Hastings as a ‘Gentleman’, and grandson Francis Richard Stanbury was a solicitor in Plymouth), whereas Peter’s seem to be more mariners.
Could it be that some of the Stanburys were non-conformist and some of the records missing or not transcribed, or could they have been born abroad or at sea? Maybe Peter wasn’t actually a Stanbury but took the name of a step-father who his single or widowed mother went on to marry.
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See Will of John Stanbury Sergemaker of South Tawton which mentions Hatherleigh on National Archives
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Hi there, thanks for the tip-off.
The Will was signed in March 1807 and proved 10th August 1807 and mentions the following.
Sons John (and his sons John, Thomas, George), Thomas and William (and his son John Tapp).
Daughters Mary (otherwise Polly Parkins), Ann Cursons, Agnes Stanbury and Mahala Stanbury.
John Stanbury m Mary Shear 1769 South Tawton with the following possible bps.
William 1770, John 1772, Ann 1775, Thomas 1777 (bur 1779), Aggy 1780 (bur 1783), Thomas 1782, Ann 1783 *, Agness 1785, Mahala 1787.
* There’s also a marriage for John Stanbury to Mary Powlesland 1783 South Tawton.
Daughter Mary Stanbury married John Perkins 1788 South Tawton.
Daughter Ann Stanbury married Francis Curson 1794 South Tawton.
In post 39 above, Francis Stanbury bp 1804 Hatherleigh names his father as John, a serge maker - but this is unlikely to be John who made the Will - Francis would have been three years old and surely provided for in the Will. The question, then, is whether the son of John who made the Will, also called John (and who married Grace Lang) is the father of Francis.
By the time the Will was made in 1807, John Stanbury and Grace Lang had the following children: William, John, Grace, Thomas, Mary, James, Francis and Henry. The Will mentions John, Thomas and George - so perhaps John whose father made the Will is not the same John who married Grace Lang.
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Thanks flemming thanks I have already translated this Will ,my direct ancestor is Mahala Stanbury who married John Sampson the William Battishill.[see my postings] I believe the beneficiary was his son John who married Grace Lang in S, Tawton who inherited his Hatherleigh properties from various postings on internet I see he was described as a serge maker.Iwas unable to to transcribe the name of the property.I am a member of S, Tawton Facebook group
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BTW a website on the internet light and sound au has a history of the stanburys
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Chapter 03 Jane Stanburyhttps://lightandsound.net.au › rennieweb › 03JaneStanbury
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Thanks flemming thanks I have already translated this Will ,my direct ancestor is Mahala Stanbury who married John Sampson the William Battishill.[see my postings] I believe the beneficiary was his son John who married Grace Lang in S, Tawton who inherited his Hatherleigh properties from various postings on internet I see he was described as a serge maker.Iwas unable to to transcribe the name of the property.I am a member of S, Tawton Facebook group
Hi there, bit confused - who was John Stanbury the beneficiary of?
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Sorry John Stanbury of S, Tawton bequeathed his Hatherleigh property to his son John and serge maker who married Grace Lang
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Hi there, I think that's the point I'm challenging. By the time of the Will in 1807, John Stanbury and Grace Lang had the following children: William, John, Grace, Thomas, Mary, James, Francis and Henry.
The Will mentions grandchildren John, Thomas and George (sons of John). The names don't tie in.
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Hi i see your point also confusing that there were 2 sons named JohnThe brothers and sisters of Jane Stanbury were:
Ann Stanbury christened 31 October 1824. Saint Mary - St. Marylbone, London.
John George Stanbury 14 May 1826. St. Matthew - Bethnal Green, London.
John James Stanbury 29 November 1829. St. Pancras, old church, London.
Jane Stanbury 18 February 1833. St. Pancras, old church, London.
Samuel Stanbury 11 February 1833(*) St. Pancras, old church, London.
Francis Stanbury 11 August 1839. St. Pancras, old church, London.
William Stanbury 11 April 1846. St. Pancras, old church, London.
(*1833 is probably an error and is more likely to be around 1836.)
ANCESTORS OF JANE STANBURY
The list unmarried persons on the JOSHUA indicates that Jane's parents were John Stanbury and Fanny Matcham. The list of assisted immigrants on the JOSHUA confirms that John and Fanny Stanbury were the parents of Jane. The record of Jane's christening in the International Genealogical Index also indicates her parents were John and Fanny Stanbury.
However, according to the marriage certificate of Jane's brother - Samuel Stanbury, Jane Stanbury was the daughter of John Stanbury and Frances Matcham (Ballarat Marriage Certificate No.12/73/469 - 1873).
John Stanbury was a miller who was born in Devon. He was christened at Hatherleigh on February 3, 1795. The names and christening details of his brothers and sisters are listed by the International Genealogical Index as on the right.
John Stanbury was the son of John Stanbury and Grace Lang who were married in South Tawton, Devon, on September 25, 1793.
The brothers and sisters of John Stanbury (Jane's father) were:
William Stanbury christened 10 December 1793 Hatherleigh, Devon.
John Stanbury(*) 3 February 1795 Hatherleigh, Devon.
Grace Stanbury 3 September 1796 Hatherleigh, Devon.
James Stanbury 31 March 1802 Hatherleigh, Devon.
Francis Stanbury 27 January 1804 Hatherleigh, Devon.
Samuel Stanbury 11 November 1807 Belstone, Devon.
Ann Stanbury 19 February 1815 Ilfracombe, Devon.
(* In the index this name is spelt Stainbury.)
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Hi there, the info I have for the couple is as follows.
John Stanbury married Fanny Matcham 31.3.1823 St Pancras, both single, of the parish and signed, witnesses James and Jane Matcham, both signed. Then children as follows.
Ann bp 31.10.1824 (born 25th Aug) Marylebone, father’s occupation ‘Trade’, abode Marylebone; ’poor’ is written in first column of the register with dittos underneath.
John George bp 14.5.1826 (born 22nd Feb) Bethnal Green, father’s occupation Labourer, abode ‘B. G. Road’.
Grace Frances bp 6.1.1828 South Hackney, father’s occupation Labourer, abode Martha Street/Cambridge ??; possible burial for Grace Stanbury 4.8.1836 St Pancras, age 8 years (born c. 1828) abode Cheney Row.
John James bp 29.11.1829 (born 3rd Nov) Old St Pancras, father’s occupation Scavenger, abode Edmund Street
Jane bp 10.2.1833 (born 23.10.1831) St Pancras, father’s occupation Dustman, abode China Row
Samuel bp 10.2.1833 St Pancras father’s occupation Dustman, abode China Row (double baptism with older sister Jane)
Mary (Stansbury) bp 18.9.1836 St Pancras (to John and Frances) father’s occupation Scavenger, abode Chenies Street
Francis bp 11.8.1839 Old St Pancras, father’s occupation none (line in column), can’t read abode
William * bp 11.4.1846 (born 20.5.1841) St Pancras, father’s occupation Carman, abode Agar Town
* Birth registered as William Henry Stanbury Q2 1841 Pancras RD mmn Matcham.
In the 1841 census, they’re in Lower Union Place, St Pancras, and all born in the county (i.e. Middlesex).
John 45 carman
Fanny 40
Ann 17
John 11
Jane 9
Samuel 8
Mary 4
Francis 2
William 1 month
Have you checked if there’s a baptism record for John Stanbury (say) 1790-1800 in Middlesex?
Also, how is it known that he was a miller born in Devon? All his children’s baptisms say he was a labourer, dustman or carman (as does the 1841 census).
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Thanks Flemming, my interest in the Stanburys is the ancestors of my direct ancestors John Stanbury and Mary Powlseland . From his Will it would appear he was from Hatherleigh since he bequeathed his eldest son his property there.BTW can you id the name of the property.The info I forwarded was from the internet I am not in communication with the owners.
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Are you sure Mahala Stanbury’s mother was Mary Powlesland and not Mary Shear?
The children named in John Stanbury senior’s Will have bps running from 1770 to 1787. John Stanbury’s marriage to Mary Powlesland was in August 1783 and so only children bp after that date are possibly those of Mary Powlesland (i.e. Ann, Agness and Mahala).
However, this would require John Stanbury senior to be widowed prior to marrying Mary Powlesland in August 1783, and it would mean daughter Ann was bp only three months later in November 1783 (not unheard of but worth bearing in mind). It also would require a burial record for first wife Mary Shear, and there’s no obvious candidate for this in South Tawton between 1780 (when children were still being born) and 1783. There is, however, a burial for Mary Stanbury in 1794 in South Tawton, spouse of John.
Not sure what you mean about ID of the property but the places named in the Will are: Eddy’s Tenement in the Town of Hatherleigh; Sticklepath in the parish of Sampford Courtney; Coopers Ash in South Tawton; and Gooseford in South Tawton.
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aThanks Flemming my info re Powlesland came from GenukiONLINE Parish Clerk.grateful to you for bringing up the anomaly and the clarification re Eddy's Had it down as Ebby's.
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Interestingly, the marriage entry for John Stanbury and Mary Shear has the groom as John Stanbury junior, so his father was likely John as well. There are two early bps in South Tawton to John Stanbury - Thomas 20 Feb 1738/9, and William 13 Jul 1746. There's 7-8 years between these so perhaps John who married Mary Shear was born between these. There's a transcription for John Hanbury bp 16.10.1741 but haven't checked the original image to see if it could be Stanbury. I've seen Stanbury mistranscribed as Hanbury before so this could be the one.
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Thanks Flemming for this additional info
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Hi Flemming not sure whether you are aware or if this is of interest But WEBSITE Legendary Dartmoor South Zeal Cross has the story of a John Stanbury a carpenter confirmed by a desc
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Hi Flemming following is an extract from the Radfords book on South Tawton page 77.
On theist now occupied by the Nat Trust Finch Foundry Museum,the two manor mills formerly provided employment in Sticklepath.Their wheels were powered by water from the leat after it left Cleave MILL to run behind the houses and through Hayes and Mill meadows to the next places of production .Operated by John Bowring and JOHN STANBURY respectively, the manor mills were already well established in the early 19cenury,one as a corn mill, the other a cloth mill.It was the latter that William Finch took over in 1814 as Stanbury's tenant.
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hi Flemming
Genuki South Tawton has a book by E Lega-Weekes Neighbours of North Wykes indexed go to part 4 and click on Internet Archive where there are details of a legal dispute regarding the 1807 Will
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