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Title: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: Peggy13 on Thursday 06 December 18 18:51 GMT (UK)
Would anyone have further information on the death of Eccles Lennox who died jan-Mar 1906 in Clun. His wife was Elizabeth Lennox nee McMurdy who died in 1923.
Their son Eclas died in 1949 in Clun.
Thanks for any help.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: hanes teulu on Thursday 06 December 18 19:04 GMT (UK)
Cannot spot an obit but if you search here for "eccles lennox"** it returns 2 items

https://newspapers.library.wales

** - include the "   " as part of the search key.
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: Peggy13 on Thursday 06 December 18 19:42 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for these articles. Very interesting.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 15 January 19 02:59 GMT (UK)
I have further evidence that Eccles Lennox died in Jan 1906 in Clun. Does this help anyone to find his obit or a death record giving his parents' names. I am particularly wanting his mother's name.
thanks for any help
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 15 January 19 08:26 GMT (UK)
Tonight, I found the index entry for the death of Eccles Lennox in 1906 in Clun on free BMD. I thought you would be able to see the death record itself but I can't seem to do so. Should I be able to see the death record to see his parents' names. Should be James Lennox and possibly Miss Morrow, first name not given on Eccles' believed brother James's death record in Scotland.
Thanks for any help
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: Deirdre784 on Tuesday 15 January 19 08:41 GMT (UK)
Tonight, I found the index entry for the death of Eccles Lennox in 1906 in Clun on free BMD. I thought you would be able to see the death record itself but I can't seem to do so. Should I be able to see the death record to see his parents' names. Should be James Lennox and possibly Miss Morrow, first name not given on Eccles' believed brother James's death record in Scotland.
Thanks for any help
Peggy

You won’t get any more info than that on the index. You will need to purchase the death certificate but that won’t give his parents names anyway (unless one of them registered the death).

The only way to find his mother would be his birth certificate, or a baptism.

Do you have him on a census anywhere?

Edited - as he was born around 1834 in Ireland there won’t, of course, be a birth certificate 🙄
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 15 January 19 09:38 GMT (UK)
Yeah, I was counting on a death certificate as there is no baptism online. If I ever get to Ireland, maybe there is a baptism on some reel of film at Proni.
I have found him on censuses but only after marriage so they don't help with his parents' names.But thank you for letting me know that his parents won't be on the death certificate.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 15 January 19 10:32 GMT (UK)
Probate book gives exact date of death-

LENNOX Eccles of 6 Kerry Green Bishops Castle Shropshire died 22 May 1949 Probate Chester 19 July to Richard Walker Francis M.B.E. butcher. Effects £315 19s 5d.

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 15 January 19 16:33 GMT (UK)
Wow, thank you Aghadowey.  That would be Eccles’ son Eccles who died in 1949.  Thanks for the link.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: Deirdre784 on Tuesday 15 January 19 18:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Peggy, i assume you have found his marriage to Elizabeth (in Maghera, Derry, Londonderry) on 13 Nov 1862. Both fathers named but neither mother sadly.
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 15 January 19 18:33 GMT (UK)
Marriage was 13 Nov.1862 in Magherafelt registration district, County Londonderry. Groom's name was Eckles Lennox.
Extract on LDS site- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGXC-F3J
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 15 January 19 18:56 GMT (UK)
Yes, thank you. I do have that marriage so I do have his father but not his mother. Of course, I am keen to know the mother not only to be sure that I have Eccles with the right James but I had a further issue with that family or another James. I have an Annie Lennox, born Mar 1, 1833, father James, who married Robert Gregg on Mar 10, 1857 in Curran Presbyterian, and then possibly died in 1915 (although someone on familysearch has dod 1904 but she is on the 1901 and 1911 censuses with Robert dying 1909). I have another Annie, born abt 1836, father James who married William Leslie on Nov 6, 1856 at Wood's Chapel, and then she died July 19, 1916 in Derrygarve (I think I have the dod correct). So I am trying to have Eccles and the correct Annie with the correct James. Hence the search for the mother of both.  I  found the death of a James who I think is the brother of Eccles and 1833 Annie who died in Scotland in 1879, wife Sarah Brown, and his  death record said father James, mother ____ Morrow. Maybe I should review all this paying more attention to religion as Wood's is Church of Ireland I believe. So  confusing  with  both Annies being born so close to each other timewise, getting married so  close to each other timewise , and dying so close to  the same date.
One of the reasons that I think Eccles and 1833 Annie are siblings is that both of their marriages are in Curran Presbyterian. James who married Sarah Brown has marriage in Maghera Presbyterian which I think is the same as Curran.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 15 January 19 19:01 GMT (UK)
Thank you Aghadowey for marriage info for Eccles/Eckles. I see father James.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 15 January 19 22:11 GMT (UK)
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One of the reasons that I think Eccles and 1833 Annie are siblings is that both of their marriages are in Curran Presbyterian. James who married Sarah Brown has marriage in Maghera Presbyterian which I think is the same as Curran.

They are NOT the same church!

Maghera Presbyterian Church- https://www.geograph.ie/photo/2299470
Curran Presbyterian Church- https://www.geograph.ie/photo/569571
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 15 January 19 22:54 GMT (UK)
Thank you Aghadowey. I have used Google Earth and located these churches and can see their respective locations.
Peggy
Title: Re: Obit Eccles aka Eckles Lennox died Jan-Mar 1906, Clun
Post by: Peggy13 on Tuesday 15 January 19 23:27 GMT (UK)
I just paid for the marriage record of James Lennox to  Sarah Brown and it actually took place in Curran. So  Eccles, 1833 Annie, and James all married in Curran, all had father James.
Peggy