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Title: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: Tom from OZ on Friday 07 December 18 10:07 GMT (UK)
The circumstances of Reginalds death are a bit of a mystery and something the family did not discuss.  The story goes that Reginald died due to scalding possibly in a bath but he was less than twelve months old and my Grand Mother was the oldest child, possibly the person in charge of the household at the time.  Could somebody direct me to Newspaper archives which may contain the details of his death, Would the South London Press be the relevant newspaper at the time and if so are archives available.

Any help on the details of his death would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 07 December 18 11:03 GMT (UK)
His death is shown a 0 years so he was just under 1

Not everything reached the paper in those days, some inquest papers have also been lost but hang in there someone might know something

Can't find a birth registration as yet either

A death cert might be a good idea

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 07 December 18 11:28 GMT (UK)
I agree his death certificate would be the best option and would give cause of death.  Here are the registration details.

Dec 1919
Camberwell
Vol 1d
Page 889
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 07 December 18 11:35 GMT (UK)
Burial date 15 December 1919 per deceased online.

Further details available for a small fee - never used this myself but it offers these options

Grave details and 15 other burials
Burial register scan
Map of grave location

Would suggest you have a little look at that site and decide what you want to do  :)
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: jonw65 on Friday 07 December 18 11:46 GMT (UK)
For a possible birth registration I can only see this one in the next quarter
March 1920 Camberwell 1d 2161
Morrells, Reginald   
mother Groves   
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 07 December 18 15:41 GMT (UK)
Burial date 15 December 1919 per deceased online.

Further details available for a small fee - never used this myself but it offers these options

Grave details and 15 other burials
Burial register scan
Map of grave location

Would suggest you have a little look at that site and decide what you want to do  :)

I don't have a sub any more but generally if there are around 15 burials it would not be a family grave.
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 07 December 18 17:07 GMT (UK)
I dispensed with this birth Reg, surely he wouldn't be registered after his death, would he?

No his grave would not be a family or private grave

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: avm228 on Friday 07 December 18 17:27 GMT (UK)
His birth could have been registered after his death was registered.  It might even still have been within the prescibed time - much longer for births than for deaths.
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: avm228 on Friday 07 December 18 17:30 GMT (UK)
I wonder whether this is the marriage of the parents?

William John Merrells
Alydia Annie Groves

Mar qtr 1903 Lewisham 1d 1183.
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: avm228 on Friday 07 December 18 17:32 GMT (UK)
Death reg for Alydia Annie Merrells aged 39, Dec qtr 1919 Camberwell.

Buried 15 December 1919 - so the same day as Reginald.
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: Tom from OZ on Friday 07 December 18 22:03 GMT (UK)
Well spotted avm, the plot thickens, Mother and son buried the same day, grief or perhaps Reginald wasn't scalded or if he was perhaps she was responsible?
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: avm228 on Friday 07 December 18 22:05 GMT (UK)
Or perhaps they both died as a result of a difficult childbirth (or complications thereafter) and the scalding story was mistaken?
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: avm228 on Friday 07 December 18 22:07 GMT (UK)
Alydia’s previous son, Thomas, was born in Camberwell workhouse infirmary in 1917; unfortunately the relevant admissions register doesn’t continue as far as 1919.
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 07 December 18 22:17 GMT (UK)
Neither does  baptisms which I looked for. I think a cert would help here

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Reginald Merrells died Dec 1919 Southwark, London
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 08 December 18 10:55 GMT (UK)
Yes I agree with getting a certificate or two, would be interested to find out what happened to them both.

There often is a portion of truth in a family rumour, maybe there was a fire and they both died from that but you might expect that to have been reported in a newspaper.

Please let us know if you find out anything  :)