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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: twolf04 on Friday 07 December 18 21:47 GMT (UK)
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I am seeking further information on this individual. I have an ancestor from Suffolk who would have been born circa 1726
Samll Butcher
England, Essex Parish Registers,
Name: Samll Butcher
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 20 Nov 1726
Event Place: Essex, England, United Kingdom
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Thom Butcher
Mother's Name: Butcher
Can anyone help?
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From LDS microfilm 1471934, Essex parish registers. Image 500 (of 1960?)
It could be
Bradwell or Great Braxted
later on the film are Broomfield, Broxted
in between is Little Braxted (from 1730)
If a transcription cant be found elsewhere, perhaps someone can look up on SEAX.
Scrub Bradwell! Wrong dates on that film.
Could be Great Braxted?
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Thanks
My ancestor ended up in Bradfield Combust later Brent Eleigh Suffolk. There is no Baptism record for a Samuel Butcher circa 1726-8 in Suffolk. So I am looking at neighboring counties. There were a couple in Norfolk but I have been able to eliminate them. I thought this an interesting possibility to check out.
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Hi
Well it might be
Image 485 (apparently!)
A burial, 1 October 1728
Elizabeth
(wife of) Thomas Butcher
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLGB-PVH6
and a burial of a Thomas Butcher, 27 June 1729
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLGB-XDLH
Whether these are the parents of Samuel, I can't say.
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Free search of The Genealogist, Births & Baptisms
Samuel Butcher
1726
Great Braxted All Saints, Essex
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From the parish register:
name: Samll. Butcher
baptised: 20 Nov 1726; All Saints, Great Braxted
father: Thomas?
mother: ? [quite faded, could be Elizabeth]
I've had a quick look through the surrounding years but couldn't see any other Butchers. But some of the pages are very faded though.
EDIT: Added snippet showing mothers name. Make of it what you will.
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Thanks again.
I guess the question is what happened to Samuel after he was orphaned? Elizabeth and Thomas were likely his parents.
My ancestor in question married in Suffolk 1749/50 as Samuel Butcher. However the surname on his Children's baptism records are a moveable feast Bouchier, Bourchier, Bouchien, Boutchies, Bouchinne etc. Which has added to the mystery.
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Looks related:
Burial:
name: Elizabeth Butcher
buried: 27 Sep 1728; All Saints, Great Braxted
note: dau. of Thomas & Elizabeth Butcher
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Is there any further records relating to Samuel Butcher in Great Braxted, marriage, death etc.
Thanks again for all your help.
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I've had quick look through the burials, marriages and baptisms til the 1780s and couldn't see any mentions of Samuel. However, quite a few records are badly faded and some pages are missing bits so it's possible I've missed him.
The only other Butchers I saw were baptisms of children of a John and Mary Butcher, in the 1740s.
If you find any other transcriptions you want checked just let us know.
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I guess if no other records of Samuel cannot be found in Great Braxted, They have either been lost or he moved.
I did a quick google search and I see Great Braxted and Bradfield Combust are about 30-35 miles in distance. I am not an Historian so whether it would have been common for people to have migrated that distance in the 18th century I don't know. Nor am I familiar with that part of England.
Out of interest does a marriage record of Thomas and Elizabeth exist, and if so, is a maiden name listed for her?
Cheers
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Another quick question,
In a case of a child that was orphaned. What would the standard practice of the time, been in raising that child?
There does not appear to be any other Butcher's in the parish at the time.
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I couldn't see a marriage for Thomas & Elizabeth in Great Braxted but as the register is in poor condition in many places many records are difficult or impossible to read.
There was a marriage for a Thomas Butcher and Mary Bonner. Whether or not this is the same Thomas, or a relation, is difficult to say. I couldn't see a burial for Mary.
Marriage
married: 24 Sep 1693; All Saints, Great Braxted
groom: Thomas Butcher; of B__ Wickham
bride: Mary Bonner; otp
I couldn't quite make out this Thomas' abode but it could be Wickham Bishops which is nearby.
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Thanks
Is there any further information on Samuel death notice, marriage etc.
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I don't know if it's the right couple, but just in case
Thomas Butcher + Elizabeth Matthews, marriage in 1714, Finchingfield
That's from Boyd's, a free search on findmypast. It's the nearest Thomas Butcher - Elizabeth marriage in Essex, date wise, to the events in Gt Braxted.
Except that the marriage is not on FreeReg?
There was a marriage licence
http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/result_details.aspx?ThisRecordsOffSet=38&id=1114706
And we can see the allegation on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YS26-799?i=336&cat=279884
Thomas + Elizabeth said to be both of Topsfield
Which must be Toppesfield.
FreeReg has baptisms in Toppesfield from 1714/15, Elizabeth, daughter of Thomas Butcher, up to 1721, Elizabeth (number 2?), daughter of Thomas + Elizabeth Butcher.
What they may not have is a burial of a Thomas Butcher in Toppesfield.
Could the family have wound up in Great Braxted?
Note, on FreeReg, a marriage of Robert Butcher + Mary Matthew in Toppesfield, also in 1714.
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Thanks.