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Title: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: Biggles01 on Saturday 08 December 18 00:37 GMT (UK)
Searching for any information on my great grandmother. Born about 1853 in Glasgow. Married Archibald McIntyre on 06 November 1873. I can't find any info on her parents, or any of her ancestors. Any help would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 08 December 18 04:47 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat ...I'm assuming you have the marriage record for Margaret and Archibald with parents names ? Which you  might be better to post

Is this your family in the 1901 census address Skipness Village Argyll
Archibald McIntyre age 52 born Glasgow occupation tailor
Margaret Cowan McIntyre age 48 born about 1853 Glasgow
Kate Campbell McIntyre age 20 born Glasgow
Archibald McIntyre age 12 born Govan Glasgow
Thomas Craig Johnston ...lodger

Rosie
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 08 December 18 05:13 GMT (UK)
The marriage:

CARMICHAEL Maggie MACINTYRE Archbald 1873 644/9 604 Tradeston

Jamjar
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 08 December 18 05:17 GMT (UK)
There are a few census records that could possible be your grandmother but until we have her parents names we can't be to sure ...I did see a death for a Alexander Carmichael 1864 High Church Glasgow
age 47 mothers maiden name Cowan ...

Rosie
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 08 December 18 05:26 GMT (UK)
Her mother on the 1871?:

CARMICHAEL MARGARET 1871 F 33 644/9 23/ 5 Tradeston Lanark

No other Carmichael with her.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 08 December 18 06:26 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat ...I'm assuming you have the marriage record for Margaret and Archibald with parents names ? Which you  might be better to post

Is this your family in the 1901 census address Skipness Village Argyll
Archibald McIntyre age 52 born Glasgow occupation tailor
Margaret Cowan McIntyre age 48 born about 1853 Glasgow
Kate Campbell McIntyre age 29 born Glasgow
Archibald McIntyre age 12 born Govan Glasgow
Thomas Craig Johnston ...lodger

Rosie

On SP, in 1901 Kate Campbell is 20. (Corrected)

Jamjar
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 08 December 18 06:34 GMT (UK)
In 1881 they are in Tradeston Lanark:

644/13 1 /2

Archibald 32
Margaret 28
Catherine 0

Born in 1881:

MACINTYRE Catherine Campb 1881 644/13 166 Tradeston

Jamjar
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 08 December 18 07:44 GMT (UK)


On SP, in 1901 Kate Campbell is 22.

Jamjar

My mistake put in 29 instead of 20 ...on ancestry

Rosie  ::)
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 08 December 18 07:49 GMT (UK)


On SP, in 1901 Kate Campbell is 22.

Jamjar

My mistake put in 29 instead of 20 ...on ancestry

Rosie  ::)

Yes, and then I put 22 instead of 20.  :(  ;D

Iíve amended it.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 08 December 18 08:00 GMT (UK)
Searching for any information on my great grandmother. Born about 1853 in Glasgow. Married Archibald McIntyre on 06 November 1873. I can't find any info on her parents, or any of her ancestors. Any help would be much appreciated.
Her marriage certificate should tell you the names of her parents including her mother's maiden surname.

If you have not seen this, go to www,scotlandspeople.gov.uk, invest in a few credits and use 6 of them to download an image of the certificate.

Then come back to us and tell us their names, and we may be able to help find information about them.


Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 08 December 18 08:24 GMT (UK)
Her folks should also be on her death certificate.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 08 December 18 08:36 GMT (UK)
Her folks should also be on her death certificate.
If she died in Scotland they would indeed.

There's a death of a Margaret Carmichael or McIntyre, aged 65, in Partick in 1918.
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 08 December 18 08:39 GMT (UK)
Her folks should also be on her death certificate.
If she died in Scotland they would indeed.

There's a death of a Margaret Carmichael or McIntyre, aged 65, in Partick in 1918.

Looks promising given she was supposedly born 1853ish.

Jamjar

Added:

MCINTYRE Margaret 65 1918 644/22 256 Partick

A possible death for Archibald:

MCINTYRE Archibald 75 1925 644/4 1139 Dennistoun
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 08 December 18 09:05 GMT (UK)
Think Iíve found them on the 1911:

644/11 51/ 19 Anderston Lanark

Archibald 61
Margaret 58
Archibald 22

Jamjar
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 08 December 18 09:17 GMT (UK)
Her folks should also be on her death certificate.
If she died in Scotland they would indeed.

There's a death of a Margaret Carmichael or McIntyre, aged 65, in Partick in 1918.

Yes I seen that need to wait until Biggle gets back to us with names of parents

Possible record 1871 for a Margaret Carmichael age 18 born Glasgow about 1853 .. machine worker
Living with her mother Catherine Carmichael age 47 born Ayr?
Address 40,St Andrews Square Glasgow

1861 Census address 21/2/Low Green Street Calton
Alexr Carmichael age 42 born Argyleshire ...warehouse porter
Catherine Carmichael age 46 born Argyleshire ?
Agnes Carmichael age 14 born Argyleshire
Margaret Carmichael age 8 born Glasgow about 1853

Rosie
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 08 December 18 11:23 GMT (UK)


On SP, in 1901 Kate Campbell is 22.

Jamjar

My mistake put in 29 instead of 20 ...on ancestry

Rosie  ::)

Yes, and then I put 22 instead of 20.  :(  ;D

Iíve amended it.

Jamjar

Yes did notice I've amended mine also  ;D ;D

Rosie
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 09 December 18 20:35 GMT (UK)
Biggles, welcome to RootsChat from me too  :)

As mentioned above, once you confirm Margaret's parents' details, will be easier for you to work back with confidence.

Noticed that she called her daughter Catherine Campbell McIntyre.

There is a marriage for a Catherine Campbell to an Alexander Carmichael on 1 June 1851
Glasgow. Wondered whether it might connect with this 1861 entry here:

Alexr Carmichael 42 warehouse porter b. Argyle
Catherine Carmichael 46 b. Argyle
Agnes Carmichael 14 b. Argyle
Margaret Carmichael 8 Glasgow

Address: 2 1/2 Low Green St, Glasgow/ Calton

There is an entry for an unmarried Alexander Carmichael in 1851 in Glasgow. From Kilbrandon Argyle, he shows as a spirits salesman.

Hopefully Margaret's marriage entry will help you now.

If correct, possibly Agnes is Catherine's daughter?

Monica

ADDED: Sorry Rosie. Didn't read properly through did I! See you have added possible 1861/1871 entries already.
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 09 December 18 20:53 GMT (UK)
1871 has:

Catherine Carmichael 47 b. Wadford, Ayrshire (?)
Margaret Carmichael 18 machine worker b. Glasgow

Address: 40 St Andrews Sq, Glasgow/Calton

There is a death in Tradeston/Glasgow in 1877 for a 65 year old Catherine Carmichael/Campbell.

There is also a death for an Alexander Carmichael in High Church/Glasgow in 1864, aged 47. His mother's maiden name is given as Cowan...could be the source of your Margaret's middle name? Called after her paternal grandmother?

If you are on the right track, the death certs of Catherine and Alexander will add more details to your searches.

Monica 
Title: Re: Margaret Cowan Carmichael
Post by: rosie17 on Monday 10 December 18 07:45 GMT (UK)
All good information Monica and Margaret names her daughter Catherine Campbell McIntyre born 1881 ...We need to wait  on Biggles  replying

Rosie