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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: Kiwi Girl on Sunday 09 December 18 00:00 GMT (UK)
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:) Hello Rootschatters,
Long time, no post from me. It seems full time study, part time work, full time Mum-ing and part time Scout leading does not lend itself to family tree sleuthing.
I hope you are all well and looking forward to some nicer weather over the festive season. 8)
I am starting my family tree hunt off with someone I am not even remotely related to, but who I see when I drive through Waikumete - Matilda / Mathilde Studer https://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23815422 (https://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23815422)
On her headstone is just says 'Mathilde Studer 1906 - 1962 R.I.P". On Archway she is listed as Matilda Studer, but right year of death. Seems sad that she was no one's daughter, sister, mother or aunt. I just found her on the cemetery search. https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=C71C60F1311C0BEE3C1ACC6C69ECB475 (https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=C71C60F1311C0BEE3C1ACC6C69ECB475) So I guess she was Catholic.
She is my curiosity case at the moment... any of you seasoned sleuthers able to shed some light?
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I cannot see anything KG.
Just that burial. Nothing extra recorded in burial book.
I don’t see her in any in electoral rolls.
No marriage to a Studer so don’t know if married or maiden name (as poss marriage in Switzerland prior)
There is a Walter Studer touring the country (NZ) in 1934. An economist? Seems to have a lot to say about the depression and US markets. Coincidence?
There are only 6 Studer deaths since 1920, the first in 1961. None fit as a potential husband.
But I am thinking there might be some spelling issues as there ought to be a death for that F Studer who shows on PapersPast. (Not that I think he belongs to her)
Arrival in NZ.? Think you are correct in needing that naturalisation document.
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Her mystery continues... I am glad, in a way, that I hadn't just lost my knack - she is playing hard to find. I wonder if such simple annotations on the headstone are a Swiss thing, or if she was just a lone lady over here. Once we have found out more about her, I think I will get her plot tidied up. She just seems so alone over there, and she has such a pretty name...
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Does Auckland library hold 1962 newspapers? Or Archives at Mangere? (Thinking of a death notice).
Undertakers?
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FamilySearch has this entry,the date is out a wee bit but?????
Mathilde Studer
from New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)
Name: Mathilde Studer
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 01 May 1921
Event Place: Ellis Island, New York City, New York, United States
Residence Place: Soluthuen, Switzerland
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Marital Status: Single
Nationality: Switzerland, German
Birth Year: 1901
Departure Port: Antwerp
Ship Name: Lapland
Additional Name: F Studer
Arrival Contact Name: A Studer
Arrival Contact Name Relationship: Brother
Page Number: 190
Affiliate Line Number: 0025
Cheers Janette
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Ooooh Janette, you are still magic! So she had a brother in the States and she ended up here... how very intriguing. I wonder if she came over with him and if he was the American Walter Studer that Mckha found in paperspast... :) Hmmm, re-read your post and saw it was A Studer that was her contact...
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It might be worth asking the office at Waikumete for a printout of their records
We don't get the same information on the database like we used to
Cheers Janette
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Might there be a clue here?........
[nee Meier]
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23643133
Also in 1951..a relative perhaps?
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23643123
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23815410
Minniehaha.
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I see that C Little & Sons did the funeral,why not copy and paste the cemetery record to them in an email (don't use the contact thingie)
Burial record for Matilda Studer
Date of birth Unknown
Date of death 6 June 1962
Age at death 55 years
Gender Female
Cemetery name Waikumete Cemetery
Plot location Waikumete Cemetery, Roman Catholic Division F, Row 4, Plot 90
Remains type Body
Date of burial 7 June 1962
Funeral director C Little & Sons Limited
https://www.littles.nz/contact-us/
They may have a death notice on file
Cheers Janette
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as there ought to be a death for that F Studer who shows on PapersPast. (Not that I think he belongs to her)
The only F Studer I can see is for a Frank Studer who died on 12 July 1967, aged 92. Occupation Sawmill Hand.
https://www.whanganui.govt.nz/our-services/cemeteries-and-crematorium/Pages/default.aspx
Good to see you back KG. :)
Cheers
KHP
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Alien registrations has Emil Adolf at same time as Mathilde. 1951
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-614S-Y3K?i=52&cc=1609792
Emil Studer age 50 a baker and Jurg age 12, leaving Auckland 26 Sept 1962. Both born Switzerland, intended port Naples.
Ancestry directories = he is in Hamilton in 1954 a Bkr.
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6M4S-23C?i=23&cc=1609792
Arrival all three 1951 Per Monowai. As Studer-Meier
(Sometimes it seems the only ship you could travel on was the Monowai. It’s name seems to c9me up so frequently!)
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Further to reply #9.......
This may be the same man; Francis Studer, "last heard of in 1909":
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19261113.2.7.3?query=studer&sort_by=byTI.rev&items_per_page=10&page=7&start_date=01-01-1920&end_date=31-12-1950&snippet=true
Minniehaha.
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Thanks so much guys, as usual you have worked a miracle in my absence... I managed to spill my lone, celebratory g'n't over my laptop keyboard last night. Here's hoping it dries out and sobers up so I can chase down leads on the comparatively big screen, rather than on my phone ::)
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Hi,
They show in Ancestry's "All Swiss Overseas Emigration, 1910-1953" but the images are in German, the transcritions are,
Name: Emil Studer
Gender: männlich (Male)
Birth Year: 1911
Place of Origin: Hägendorf, Solothurn, Schweiz (Switzerland)
Last Residence: Trunbach, Solothurn, Schweiz (Switzerland)
Departure Date: Feb 1951
Port of Departure: Genua
Port of Arrival: Sydney Aurtr
Name: Mathilde Studer
Gender: weiblich (Female)
Birth Year: 1906
Place of Origin: Hägendorf, Solothurn, Schweiz (Switzerland)
Last Residence: Limbach, Österreich (Austria)
Departure Date: Feb 1951
Port of Departure: Grma
Port of Arrival: Zgdnlz Auster
Name: Jürg Studer
Gender: männlich (Male)
Birth Year: 1949
Place of Origin: Hägendorf, Solothurn, Schweiz (Switzerland)
Last Residence: Trimbach, Solothurn, Schweiz (Switzerland)
Departure Date: Feb 1951
Port of Departure: Genua
Port of Arrival: Sydney; Austr
I think the ship was Vivaldi.
I can't see anything on the document that says anything to do with Austria for Mathilde, I think her last residence is Trimbach, Sol. No mention of Austria.
I can send you the images if you want.
Regards,
Daisy
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Nice finds guys... maybe Emil felt that Adolf wasn't a name to travel with post 1940s, and he was A Studer whom she met up with in the States..?
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Nice finds guys... maybe Emil felt that Adolf wasn't a name to travel with post 1940s, and he was A Studer whom she met up with in the States..?
But if she was nee Meier, then perhaps this Mathilde Studer is a different person....
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Hi all, new laptop - back on the case, will chase up some of your leads :)
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sorry I admit I haven't read thr the 3 pages but I may or maynot be repeating info but there was a departure from London England in 1951 for Mathilde Studer arriving in freemantle in transit to new Zealand, she was travelling with an Emil and jurg, all being single at the time of travel
there is also immigration papers from Switzerland for 1951 for the same name, perhaps that helps narrow things a little?
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Hi Kiwi Girl, and Happy new Year!
Would you like me to look for the Archives NZ Wellington file listed by Minniehaha in Reply#7?
Spades
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I visited Archives NZ today and took photos of the immigration file for Emil Adolf STUDER, Mathide's husband.
It's a goldmine. And a photo to boot.
Now to wait patiently to surprise Kiwi Girl. Hope she wants it... ??? ???
Spades
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Spades,
You are amazing! And here I thought I was the bee's knees finding her death notice in the NZ Herald, confirming she was Emil's wife and Mother of Georgie (Jorg?) and Rosemarie.
I now wait in eager anticipation of your most amazing discovery!
P.S.
I was out of wifi contact for a bit and had spotty data coverage. ;)
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No worries, KG.
I think you'll find the file very interesting.
Can you PM me with your email address, please?
Spades
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Further to the above death notice...........
Burial record for Rosmarie Hogan
Date of birth
Unknown
Occupation
Retired
Date of death
11 February 1999
Age at death
64 years
Gender
Female
Region
West
Cemetery name
Waikumete Cemetery
Plot location
Waikumete Cemetery, Western Lawn B, Row 3, Plot 170
Remains type
Body
Date of burial
15 February 1999
Funeral director
W M Morrison Funeral Directors
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23815421
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=25240189
1999/4021 Hogan* Rosmarie 21 May 1934
*BDM death search also comes up under Schneider, name shown as above in first Archives link.
Minniehaha.
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And husband of Rosmarie.......
Burial record for Patrick William Hogan
Date of birth
Unknown
Occupation
Retired Motor Mechanic
Date of death
20 May 1996
Age at death
67 years
Gender
Male
Region
West
Cemetery name
Waikumete Cemetery
Plot location
Waikumete Cemetery, Western Lawn B, Row 3, Plot 170
Remains type
Body
Date of burial
23 May 1996
Funeral director
Unknown
Minniehaha.
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Ooooh you are good! I will have to go visit Rosemary too. Thanks for that :)
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Maybe Rosemary was the child of the first marriage? Thanks for finding her :D
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Ooooh you are good! I will have to go visit Rosemary too. Thanks for that :)
Thought you might
Cheers Janette
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Images sent.
Spades
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Hi Kiwi Girl,
Just to note the spelling of the Christian name...
It appears to be Rosmarie. Without an 'e'...... ;) It tripped me up for a while.
Minniehaha
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Reply much like the Matilde/ Matilda spelling of her Mum. So glad to have something to put with the headstone. I'll go give her a wee tidy up, or con...vince my friend who does grave cleaning there to give me a hand - watch out Good Cemeterianz! lol
My topic is now complete thanks to Spades for the look up, and to you all for your help.
xXx
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Went for a visit today - tidied up a bit, but the grave was covered, on purpose, with scoria, so it's not going to look pristine. Visited her Daughter and Son in Law too