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Title: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: dutch missmarple on Sunday 09 December 18 14:15 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

looking desperately for the marriage of Philip Win(d)ley and probably Ann....
Philip born 1694 Roxwell Essex. Father John, mother Elizabeth
Marriage unknown
Children (mother stated as Ann): Thomas 1724, Philip 1727, Henry 1737 (why is there a gap of 10 years ?), Sarah 1740, Ann 1740, Ann 1741 and Robert 1745. Years are years of baptism. All bapt. Roxwell Essex.


Looking for the date and place of the marriage and were there anymore children born between 1727 and 1737 (maybe in another county?).


mother of these children stated as Ann, but could this be Mary Ann or another name variant ?


any help grately appreciated

Dutch MissMarple
Title: Re: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: suffolk*sue on Sunday 09 December 18 14:29 GMT (UK)
John Winley married Elizabeth Elson in Writtle 2nd October, 1688. He was from Roxwell and she from Writtle.
Title: Re: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: dutch missmarple on Sunday 09 December 18 14:41 GMT (UK)
that's right. those were the parents of Philip.
I also have the names of Philips siblings (8 in total)
but so far no marriage or date of death/burial

DMM
Title: Re: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: nannyj on Sunday 09 December 18 19:10 GMT (UK)
They are my 7x great grandparents. I’ve never managed to find a marriage for them, despite searching through all the local parish records online.

Philip was buried 25th Jan 1771. Not found a burial for Ann.
Title: Re: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: dutch missmarple on Sunday 09 December 18 21:42 GMT (UK)
thank you Nannyj. Ik think they are my 7x gr-grandparents too. Or 6x, I'm not sure.

Was he burried in Roxwell ?

Isn't it strange that you can't find the marriage anywhere ?


DMM
Title: Re: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: dutch missmarple on Sunday 09 December 18 21:47 GMT (UK)
one more question Nannyj:

As you know Philip and Ann had a son also called Philip. When did he die and where ?
Because I have the date of 25 January 1771 as the sons date of burial not the father (married to Ann).


DMM
Title: Re: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: nannyj on Monday 10 December 18 17:22 GMT (UK)
I’ll have a look but the Phillip who is buried in Roxwell 1771 says Phillip senior.

Although Philip 1727 also had a son Philip!
Title: Re: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: dutch missmarple on Monday 10 December 18 19:53 GMT (UK)
ok thank you. yes, it is confusing: 3 x Philip in a row !  ;D

DMM
Title: Re: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: nannyj on Monday 10 December 18 20:39 GMT (UK)
I couldn’t find a death for Phillip 1727 and I looked in roxwell right up to 1830 when he’d have been over 100.
His wife Mary man died 1810 aged 85 in the workhouse at roxwell.
Title: Re: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 10 December 18 22:46 GMT (UK)
There's a Philip Winley burial at Willingale Doe, 25 Dec 1793 (FreeReg)
No idea if it's the right one!
John

EDIT Seems to be all on his own there?
Title: Re: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 11 December 18 07:53 GMT (UK)
Map says Willingale Doe is pretty much next door to Roxwell.
Title: Re: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: dutch missmarple on Tuesday 11 December 18 12:01 GMT (UK)
if Willingale Doe is very close to Roxwell, this could mean that it might be Philip born 1727 or his son born in 1755 in Roxwell. Certainly not the eldest Philip born in 1694, because he would have been 99. That would mean that Nannyj is right about the death of Philip in 1771, being the eldest.

That leaves the burial dates of the son Philip and grandson Philip.....  ;)

DMM
Title: Re: lookup request marriage Philippe Win(d)ley and Ann ?
Post by: nannyj on Tuesday 11 December 18 17:55 GMT (UK)
Map says Willingale Doe is pretty much next door to Roxwell.

3.4 miles. I think you could be onto something. Will check the registers. Thanks.