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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: cristeen on Tuesday 11 December 18 18:49 GMT (UK)
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Looking for this couple in 1871 & struggling to find them, any help appreciated!
James was born abt 1826 Belfast Ireland, Marrion sometimes spelled Merrion & a whole host of potential misspellings I guess. Eliza (nee Houghton) was born abt 1836 Preston Lancashire
1861 they are in Portsea, Hants & James is a journeyman baker
Known children
Ann abt 1857 Liverpool, Emma Jane baptised 11 May 1869, Christchurch Liverpool, William George bapt 28 Nov 1871 Liverpool Both baptisms have James as a baker & abode 29 Gerard Street
At some point James dies because Eliza remarries in 1877. She is still at 29 Gerard St in 1881
I would like to find either of them in 1871 and any death details for James or his two daughters whom I assume died as I can't find them either. William George married, had kids and died in 1945 (I think)
This family aren't my direct line, Eliza married into my family, I'm trying to get some background on her. TIA :)
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Just for searching info - Emma Jane's birth was March qtr 1869 Liverpool - surname is Merrion on record
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I have the Liverpool 1871 on CD so will have a look at 29 Gerard St for you shortly
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Thanks for the confirmation CaroleW. I have her birth date as 21 Dec 1868 from the baptism record. I have just found her burial, Anfield Cemetery, 18 May 1869 aged 5 months. I was hoping she may have been alive for the 1871 census so she could help find the family :(
Just seen your second reply, I have been trying to find Gerard Street in the 1871, it makes sense that they are there but am useless at searching for streets in huge cities! Help with that muchly appreciated :)
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Found 29 but the occupants were Dennis Smith 26 b Ireland wife Mary 30 and daughter Bridget aged 3
Piece number is 3790 and folios are from 5 to 32 as Gerard St flips around a lot
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After I've watched Holby City and the really "must see" last episode of Mrs Wilson, I'll scroll through all the Gerard St images to see if I can spot them. No promises - the enumerator should have been given a handwriting test before they hired him!!
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Found 29 but the occupants were Dennis Smith 26 b Ireland wife Mary 30 and daughter Bridget aged 3
Yes, this makes number 29 significantly “under-occupied” compared to the apparent overcrowding at many nearby addresses. I wonder whether the Marrion/Merrion family were there but failed to return a census schedule.
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Yes - Gerard St is full of multi occupied properties - very few have only one family in them. I will probably be cross eyed looking at them all ;D
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Thank you Carole for your efforts
avm228, that is an interesting suggestion. That address was used on baptisms 11 May 1869 and 28 Nov 1871. Eliza was at the same address when she remarried in 1877, and is there for the 1881 census so I was surprised they weren't there for the 1871. I suppose they could be visiting relatives, even in Ireland.
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It wasn't uncommon in Liverpool for people to use "convenience" addresses when they married so it's possible the same may have happened here.
If people wanted to marry at a particular church outside of their own parish - they "pretended" to live locally. In some cases - the address didn't even exist and in others it belonged to friends or relatives
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I've just finished searching the disc and I can't find them anywhere in Gerard St. It seems strange they are not there given the time span of the baptisms, marriage and 1881 census.
As William was born so late in 1871 - I'm sure James would have died after the 1871 census so perhaps the family had gone on a visit to Ireland. Eliza would have been barely pregnant at that time.
There is an 1876 death in Liverpool of a James Marron aged 55 but I can't find a burial record to check his address nor can I find an 1871 entry for that name to rule him out
EDIT
James was born abt 1826 Belfast Ireland,
1861 shows his birth year as 1822 so above death is a possibility