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Title: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Wednesday 12 December 18 16:04 GMT (UK)
.This may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not. If I could make out the facial characteristics I may be able to hazard a guess. ::)
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Thursday 13 December 18 19:27 GMT (UK)
I have been assured by my cousin that this is my gtgrandparents. If anybody could repair the photo I would be grateful.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Wiggy on Thursday 13 December 18 20:03 GMT (UK)
Any chance of a bigger scan YT?   ;)   you are usually good at large photos!  :)

Haven't done much except reset  - too small to deal with (for me.)

Wiggy   
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 December 18 20:12 GMT (UK)
YT as Wiggy says, this is really a bit small too get much out of it. All I've done is enlarge and increase the clarity, etc.  so that you might be able to see some features.

Please don't regard it as a restore.

(Made smaller as previous one needs to be scrolled)
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Thursday 13 December 18 20:13 GMT (UK)
I am hoping to get the original next week, this is from an email I received

Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Thursday 13 December 18 20:14 GMT (UK)
Thank's Gadget, it is clearer.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Wiggy on Thursday 13 December 18 20:17 GMT (UK)
Don't regard mine as a restore either - just trying to see her face.    ;)
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 December 18 20:25 GMT (UK)
I think I'll wait to try a restore until YT gets the original and scans it to his normal size.

Does it look like them YT?
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Thursday 13 December 18 20:36 GMT (UK)
It do's Gadget. Here is a photo of my gtgrandfather, the man in the photo. On this one he is the one holding the hammer.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Thursday 13 December 18 20:41 GMT (UK)
And my gtgrandmother
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 December 18 21:08 GMT (UK)
And my gtgrandmother

It's her, I'm sure  :D
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Wiggy on Thursday 13 December 18 21:51 GMT (UK)
Those were the days when hearing aides were really something!!    ;D ;D

You can just tell it is them . . . . . . .  I think!   :-\    ;D  ;D
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Thursday 13 December 18 22:26 GMT (UK)
It is
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Thursday 13 December 18 22:34 GMT (UK)
Younger version
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 December 18 23:28 GMT (UK)
A quick snip of faces from previous image. Again, I've not attempted a restoration.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Thursday 13 December 18 23:34 GMT (UK)
OK Gadget, will see what the original is like if I get it.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: McGroger on Friday 14 December 18 06:35 GMT (UK)
Couldn't resist giving this one a little tlc. Lovely photo.
Peter
Title: Re: may be a photo of my gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Friday 14 December 18 07:12 GMT (UK)
Thankyou Peter.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Sansum gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Friday 14 December 18 21:17 GMT (UK)
Scanned the original photo at 300dpi
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: McGroger on Saturday 15 December 18 06:48 GMT (UK)
My try.
Youngtug, my restore of your great grandmother's face is pure restore, but as the image of your great grandfather was so badly damaged my restore of him relies partly on features borrowed from your picture of him as a younger man.
Cheers,
Peter
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Saturday 15 December 18 07:07 GMT (UK)
Thank you
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Sansum gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: BushInn1746 on Saturday 15 December 18 08:58 GMT (UK)
Amended original comment not relevant
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Saturday 15 December 18 09:14 GMT (UK)
Interesting,  in the past I have been asked to scan photos on this board in colour mode. Will give it a try.

Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 15 December 18 09:18 GMT (UK)
No.

Never scan in grey scale. You lose a lot of information.

YT - it's still very small. With this size of original, you need to either scan at as high a dpi as your scanner will allow (I've gone up to 48000) or, if you have the facility, scan it at a larger dimension size. I think this is only 350 -ish wide.

Gadget
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 15 December 18 09:21 GMT (UK)
Also, save as jpg, without compression. png will keep the info but takes a lots of kb to do it.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Saturday 15 December 18 09:48 GMT (UK)
OK, lets try this.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: BushInn1746 on Saturday 15 December 18 09:51 GMT (UK)
No.

Never scan in grey scale. You lose a lot of information.

YT - it's still very small. With this size of original, you need to either scan at as high a dpi as your scanner will allow (I've gone up to 48000) or, if you have the facility, scan it at a larger dimension size. I think this is only 350 -ish wide.

Gadget

Hi Gadget

Thank you.

Mark
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 15 December 18 09:54 GMT (UK)
Mark, you might get nice sharp images but they are no good for restoration.  I've been restoring photos since 1995.



Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: BushInn1746 on Saturday 15 December 18 10:00 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 15 December 18 10:02 GMT (UK)
Mark

Stop arguing. The vast band of restorers will tell you:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=198165.0

Do not give wrong info. How much experience do you have of restoring photographs?
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: BushInn1746 on Saturday 15 December 18 10:05 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 15 December 18 10:10 GMT (UK)
For restoration purposes, images should be scanned in colour mode.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 15 December 18 10:11 GMT (UK)
Must say all the excellent restorers on here when I was learning always told me to scan in colour for restoration purposes. 

And my friend the local photographer who does a lot of work for his photographic club, also tells me always to scan in colour.     :-\ :)   He is a professional at this game.

Wiggy
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 15 December 18 10:12 GMT (UK)
If I may but in here...as a restorer of 11 years, I have always been led to believe from what I have read, and also learned from other restorers that a colour scan will always bring out the greatest detail as it picks up the full tonal range of the photo from black, through greys to white. It doesn't matter what colour the original is, the principal is the same.
Carol
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 15 December 18 11:03 GMT (UK)
OK, lets try this.

I've just seen this, YT. It looks much better for restoration. I'll see if I can restore it tomorrow. I must get on with Christmas stuff today  :)
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Saturday 15 December 18 12:43 GMT (UK)
OK ,,,, Jpeg.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 15 December 18 13:33 GMT (UK)
They're both much better  :)

When I enlarge, I can see that it looks as if grt grandfather might have moved his head when the photo was taken as he has 2 noses and mouths. I'll try and sort it, but, if you have another photo of him, it might be useful. I see that the one with the hammer has a narrower face. I could use that as a guide if you have nothing more.

Gadget

Added - it could be that it's his cheek but it looks very nose-like. When I get it up and cleaned, it will show more clearly.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Saturday 15 December 18 14:28 GMT (UK)
Gadget, that is it I am afraid, these are the only photo's of him, and I have only just obtained them.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: BushInn1746 on Saturday 15 December 18 17:38 GMT (UK)
Sorry for mentioning Greyscale, Mark
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 15 December 18 20:47 GMT (UK)
???

Young Tug has asked for a restore.

Added - slowly getting there YT - Monday pm or Tuesday  :)
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 30 December 18 21:36 GMT (UK)
Just to add that I sent a restored image to YT last Monday/Tuesday.

Gadget
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Sunday 30 December 18 21:40 GMT (UK)
And a brilliant image it was.
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: Trishanne on Sunday 30 December 18 22:57 GMT (UK)
Here's one from me
Pat
Title: Re: may be a photo of my Samsun gtggrandparents, it may not
Post by: youngtug on Sunday 30 December 18 23:11 GMT (UK)
Thank you Pat