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Title: Irish Wedding extracts
Post by: Cnthree3 on Wednesday 12 December 18 22:25 GMT (UK)
Hello

could someone possibly decipher these two extracts from an old Irish catholic record of marriage. it is the second line I am interested in, for the first document,

many thanks
Title: Re: Irish Wedding extracts
Post by: Cnthree3 on Wednesday 12 December 18 22:30 GMT (UK)
and here is the second image - can anyone read the names?

many thanks
Title: Re: Irish Wedding extracts
Post by: Bookbox on Wednesday 12 December 18 22:41 GMT (UK)
it is the second line I am interested in, for the first document,

In 2o et 2o gradu
Consanguinitatis


In the 2nd x 2nd degree of consanguinity
Title: Re: Irish Wedding extracts
Post by: Bookbox on Wednesday 12 December 18 23:03 GMT (UK)
it is the second line I am interested in, for the first document,

Sorry, did you mean the second box down in your extract? It reads ...

Dispensatione
in Secundo et secun(-)
do gradu Consanguinitatis
obtento


Dispensation for 2nd to 2nd degree of consanguinity having been obtained.

I believe this indicates first cousins.
Title: Re: Irish Wedding extracts
Post by: Cnthree3 on Wednesday 12 December 18 23:03 GMT (UK)
it is the second line I am interested in, for the first document,

In 2o et 2o gradu
Consanguinitatis


In the 2nd x 2nd degree of consanguinity

Many thanks for this - does this mean they were related in som away before marriage?
Title: Re: Irish Wedding extracts
Post by: Cnthree3 on Wednesday 12 December 18 23:05 GMT (UK)
BookBox - man thanks - our messages crossed. Much appreciate your time
Title: Re: Irish Wedding extracts
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Thursday 13 December 18 13:04 GMT (UK)
Where bride & groom were cousins they had to get a bishop’s dispensation in order to marry. So the dispensation and degree of the relationship was usually recorded on the church record. Not sure if a bishop's dispensation is still required but it was standard practice in the 1800s anyway.