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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: goldie61 on Thursday 13 December 18 06:16 GMT (UK)
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Can I get opinions on a name here please?
Last line of the first clip:
‘Item unto James Rowley which John ???? assigned me to pay 2.6.4d’
I’m thinking it’s ‘lanne’?
Second clip shows double ‘n’ in ‘sonne’.
Also in this second clip, I have ‘one new payre of Colberts(?) beinge at Richard podmores s???’
Third clip shows capital ‘C’ I think on ‘Thomas Cartlige’?
Thanks for any help.
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I agree with lanne.
Colbert(es) ... smythy
(I haven't yet found this col- word, but perhaps it relates to coal, e.g. tongs or similar, as they are with the blacksmith?)
Thomas Cartliche or Cartleche (I think).
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Hello Bookbox.
Thanks for your replies.
I would never have seen 'smythy'! Well spotted.
I'm hoping John 'Lanne' is my John Lane.
He is mentioned (as John Lane), in the Tunstall Manor Court records, as are Ralph and William Lane.
I haven't come across the surname 'Lanne' in them, or in the Norton in the Moors registers - where they lived.
Also in these records is Thomas Cartledge - plus variations of spelling of course.
The clips are from the will of a John Thursfield in 1606; debts that he owes.
I read the line
‘Item unto James Rowley which John Lanne assigned me to pay 2.6.4d’
as John Thursfield is to pay James Rowley the 2.6.4.d, but that originally it was John Lanne that owed James Rowley, and somehow the debt has passed John Thursfield.
Am I correct?
I had thought it might be under some terms of a marriage settlement.
A Ralph Lane married an Agnes Thursfield in 1594, but there is no Agnes as daughter, or mention of any Lane family, in this will of John Thursfield's in 1606.
Many records missing of course, so it's a case of any tiny clue to piece together the jigsaw. :)
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Would it not be 2s 4d (two shillings and fourpence)?
Bev
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Would it not be 2s 4d (two shillings and fourpence)?
Bev
Of course, you're right Bev! :-[
Thanks for pointing that out. Not thinking straight last night!
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originally it was John Lanne that owed James Rowley, and somehow the debt has passed John Thursfield.
Am I correct?
That's how I would read it too. It's hard to guess the circumstances, but it's a fairly small sum, so perhaps an unpaid debt or overdue bill of some kind? Maybe Lanne had given Thursfield the money to give to Rowley, but Thursfield hadn't yet handed it over.
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Thanks for your comments Bookbox. :)