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Title: william offer alford
Post by: philrmoon on Thursday 13 December 18 17:37 GMT (UK)
Trying to find where

William offer alford was born/ baptised abt 1755-1763
And his parents

He was married to Elizabeth. ( betty ) brown Wiltshire

Married abt 1785- 1800 ??

Regards Phil
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: ribbo39 on Thursday 13 December 18 22:03 GMT (UK)

Can you give us some idea of where in Wilts,  William was born?

I've looked at a few parishes but there are too many to go thru each.

Alan
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: ribbo39 on Thursday 13 December 18 23:21 GMT (UK)
Hi philrmoon,

If you go to FamilySearch, I think you will find he is recorded as marrying 24-12-1788 in Erlstoke, Wilts to Betty Brown.

Using the transcripts from WiltsFHS for this parish, he is listed as;
24-12-1788 William Offer, abode - of this parish to Elizabeth Browne, also otp By Banns


Alan
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: philrmoon on Friday 14 December 18 12:46 GMT (UK)
Hi

Sorry to be a nuisance ( thanks for the replies )

But you said that William offer married 24/12/1788 in Wiltshire to betty browns

Was there an e in brown ??

Does it give her parents or her age

Does it give his parents and or age

( on a family tree it gives a William offer alford being born 1755 Erdington, Wiltshire, I know you shouldn't take for granted family trees )

Regards Phil
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: ribbo39 on Friday 14 December 18 13:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Phil,
24-12-1788 William Offer, abode - of this parish to Elizabeth Browne
If you look I put an "E"  at the end of Elizabeth's name.

There was no mention of either parent's names or ages.

Alan
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: ribbo39 on Friday 14 December 18 13:19 GMT (UK)
Phil,

I've sent you a PM

Alan
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 14 December 18 14:14 GMT (UK)
Two possible baptisms for William Offer (no mention of Alford):

Edington - ? January 1755 (edge of page missing but following baptism date is 9 January 1755) - son of John and Hester Offer - Edington is about 2 miles from Earlestoke.

Winterbourne Earls - 2 July 1758 - William son of Robert and Mary Offier - Winterbourne Earls is about 25 miles from Earlestoke.
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 14 December 18 14:34 GMT (UK)
Assuming I'm looking at the correct tree on Ancestry, then there are some children, said to be siblings of William Offer, with the surname Alford  :-\

Thomas, said to be baptised at Atworth on 20 November 1796, is the son of William and Betty ALFRED.

Hannah, daughter of William and Betty Alford - 17 March 1799 - Atworth

BUT, then I can't readily see a marriage between William Alford/Alfred and Betty ????  :-\
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: philrmoon on Friday 14 December 18 16:21 GMT (UK)
Hi

William offer ?

Married

Betty browne dec 1788 earl-stoke or erlestoke Wiltshire

Don't know where the alford came from unless was a mispelling ??

Regards Phil
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 14 December 18 16:26 GMT (UK)
Both the Banns and the Marriage entry state William Offer and Elizabeth Browne.  Neither of them signed the register. 

ADDED:  And it was you who suggested Alford - now I'm even more confused  :-[
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: philrmoon on Friday 14 December 18 18:00 GMT (UK)
Hi yes I did

A Allen Alford told me that his direct line Thomas offer Halfords dad was William offer Alford who married betty Brown but could not Williams birth place or parents

Regards Phil
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 14 December 18 19:09 GMT (UK)
My apologies, I don't  quite understand your dilemma?  Are you just following a "tree", or have you done any research om your own research.



Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: philrmoon on Friday 14 December 18 20:38 GMT (UK)
Hi

my own research where the offer and Alford families came from

My wife is connected to one

Regards Phil
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: Little Nell on Friday 14 December 18 20:46 GMT (UK)
Try saying both 'offer' and 'alford' in a country accent - then you might understand where the two different ways of writing it come from.  ;)

From the snippet of the marriage entry, neither William nor Elizabeth seem to be literate so the parish clerk wrote what he heard.

I have similar problems in Wiltshire with Orchard, Archard, Archer.

Marriage registers at this date do not record parents' names or the ages of the couple involved.

Nell
Title: Re: william offer alford
Post by: philrmoon on Friday 14 December 18 20:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your reply

Regards Phil