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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: Gemini37 on Friday 14 December 18 06:28 GMT (UK)
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G'day all from OZ,
I am trying to obtain information on this family.
What I have at the moment is a John Austin born about 1789 and at his death his father is quoted as Edward.
It is said that he married a Catherine Dean (we think) 9 Feb 1822.
We have a list of children born as follows an the years are about:
John 1823
Elizabeth 1824
Edward 1826
William 1827
Catherine 1830
Julia 1832
Sophia 1833
and one other.
It is possible that John's wife Catherine died before John came to Australia in 1839 as the records show he arrived with his wife and 8 children.
Accordingly the thought is that he remarried before he left England.
Any help would be greatly appreciate.
Regards and Merry Christmas to all.
Wal
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Link to the research on the Australia board:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=805034.0
Jamjar
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Thank you Jamjar, but now I am seeking information from the County of Kent.
Regards Wal
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Thank you Jamjar, but now I am seeking information from the County of Kent.
Regards Wal
Yes, I know. The link is for those who will assist you on this thread.
Is alway good to provide related threads, as it saves duplications.
So far there is no confirmation that those we found for you, are actually the family who arrived on the ship you mentioned.
There is another large family with John as head in Sydney, who could be a candidate for that arrival. His father not Edward.
Jamjar
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Sorry Jamjar I can understand where you are coming from, appreciated.
Regards Wal
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The children are all indexed as Austen in Burmarsh of John and Catherine.
A Catherine Austen, born 1796, was buried in Burmarsh on 8th August 1837.
I can't be certain that this was John's wife.
There are some marriages between 1837 and 1839. One to Mary Stokes in Hythe on 24th February 1839 gives John as a widower of Hythe, grazier, son of Edward, Grazier.
David
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David, could we have the names of the children, please?
Or, are they the ones listed above?
We need 8.
Jamjar
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Only the seven as above. Perhaps one elsewhere - will have a look.
David
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One to Mary Stokes
Is there a father’s name for Mary?
Jamjar
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Only the seven as above. Perhaps one elsewhere - will have a look.
David
Well they are a good start :)
Maybe his possible second wife had one of her own?
Jamjar
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There is a Thomas James Austen in Lympne, baptised on 5th August 1837, son of John and Catherine. It could be that Catherine died soon after the birth but it would need the certificates to be certain.
David
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Mary Stokes was the daughter of Henry Stokes a baker. The witnesses were Richard Chamberlain and Mary Ann Luds.
1851 Census - Henry Stokes, born 1787, in Hythe, baker of Church Hill, St Leonard Hythe, Elham, Kent.
Wife Hannah, b 1787 in Hythe.
David
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Thank you David.
I can’t find a suitable death for a Mary with those folks in NSW, at the mo. :(
Jamjar
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Assuming that there is a link to John:-
Mary Stoaks, daughter of Henry and Hannah, baptised in Hythe, St Leonard, on 1st September, 1816.
Probable marriage of Henry Stokes to Hannah Gibbons of Newington at Hythe, St Leonard, on 8th March 1808.
David
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Hello, I am trying to find out more about the Austens who were living in Burmarsh at the same time as John, in order to trace the family tree higher up.
In 1821, Burmarsh had a population of 94 people and Eastbridge had a population of 18 people, so I think the chances of finding related Austens is higher than searching wider (i.e. Lympne).
On 7 April 1825, Edward Austen, looker, and William Austen, grazier, both of Eastbridge in Burmarsh, were given the license for the Shepherd and Crook alehouse where all the local tithes for Burmarsh were collected.
A William Austen married Charlotte Dean in Appledore on 22 December 1814. I have evidence that this is the sister of Catherine Dean who married John Austen in Appledore in 1822. Therefore William and John are at least brothers-in-law, but likely related by blood too. William and Charlotte had several children in Burmarsh.
I have also found information about a William Austen who was the tenant of a large amount of grazing land in Eastbridge/Burmarsh, along with one John Back, on the property of David Papillon. https://www.myjacobfamily.com/historical%20manuscripts/kentdeeds5.htm
I think that William (and possibly this Edward) was the son of John Austen and Mary Cloke https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/147352377/john-austen
I haven't yet been able to find the connection between this family of Burmarsh Austens and my ancestor John Austen mentioned earlier or his father Edward. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!