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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: rankpin95 on Tuesday 18 December 18 20:58 GMT (UK)
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This may be a long shot but worth a try in asking for help. I have traced my Rankin family line back to a Leslie Rankin, born around 1807 in Garvagh and died in 1904 in the same place.
I know his father was called James but do not know when he was born or when he died. Leslie and James were both architects/builders. There were a lot of Rankins in this area in these 2 centuries, however i have struggled to connect them as one family. My Rankin line have always been Church of Ireland, whereas the other Rankin's have generally been Presbyterian. I've tried looking for common names that could help establish a link but this has proved unsuccessful.
If anyone can provide any help at all, no matter how small it would be really appreciated.
Thanks.
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Details posted on previous topic-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=789904.18
Coleraine Chronicle, 22 Sept.1849: Married- At Garvagh, county Derry, on the 8th inst., by the Rev. Mitchell Smyth, Mr. Leslie Rankin, builder, to Margaret, second daughter of James Jack, Esq., Glasgow.
See another earlier topic- http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=789907.msg6456931
"Leslie and Margaret had one son, 'Mitchell Smyth Rankin', he would be my 3x great grandfather and was born around 1853. He was the only child these two had together. I'm assuming he was named after the COI minister for St. Pauls in Garvagh who was interestingly born in 1807 like Leslie Rankin."
15 Dec.1868 St. Guaire's Church of Ireland, Aghadowey, Leslie Rankin, widower, carpenter, Garvagh, son of James Rankin, architect, to Jane Grisham, Ballyquinn [Ballynacally], daughter of Longford Grisham. A son was born 2 Jan.1873.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Garvagh/Sarvagh/1520006
Constitution, 23 Jan.1904: Leslie Rankin died at his residence, Garvagh on Sunday aged 97.
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Some of this might help ;)
Garvagh directories-
1846 - James Rankin, carpenter
1870 - Leslie Rankin, carpenter & grocer
1897 - Leslie Rankin, house carpenter
1900 - Leslie Rankin - house carpenter
Lord Garvagh's Leases-
1st December 1805. George Bell and James Rankin.
Lease of a Double tenement for 31 years or three lives. George Bell Gortfad and James Rankin Garvagh, double tenement on the Bleach-green in Garvagh next to that held by David Millar, fifty feet in front with a passage of seven and a half feet and extending to the river the same breadth. Said double or two tenements to be built and slated the same height as M’Gettigan’s. Lives of Anne Rankin daughter of James aged one year, James Bell 18 years and Samuel Bell aged 2 years sons of George Bell.
1st December 1815. James Rankin of Garvagh, Carpenter. The two tenements on the Bleach-green in Garvagh adjoining James McFall’s tenement containing fifty feet in front with a sufficient passage for a gateway to accommodate the said two tenements, bounded on the north by that part of the Bleach-green that is yet unset, on the south by the River Errigal, on the east by James McFall’s Tenement and on the west by the street of Garvagh, said tenement to be slated and finished similar to the other tenements already built on the said Bleach-green.
Not sure if this one connected-
1st January 1807. John M’Wade senior to John M’Wade jun. lease of one half of a tenement. Life of James Rankin the elder of Garvagh, Blacksmith.
8th December 1827. Isaac May, Shoemaker, Garvagh. Tenement containing twenty five feet seven inches in front and running back two hundred and ten feet seven inches, bounded on one side by the tenement occupied by James Rankin and on the other side by the tenement now unoccupied which adjoins the school house. In the front by the street of Garvagh and in the rear by the boundary as now laid off by Daniel Kane, being as far back as the wall built to enclose the school house tenement and measuring from front to rear two hundred and ten feet seven inches. Lives of Charles Rankin son to Hugh Rankin of Liscall, aged 5 years, George Rankin aged 3 years and Leslie Rankin aged 1 year sons of James Rankin carpenter of Garvagh. Lease for 31 years. NOTE: Now William McMaster.
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8th December 1827. Isaac May ... Lives of Charles Rankin son to Hugh Rankin of Liscall, aged 5 years, George Rankin aged 3 years and Leslie Rankin aged 1 year sons of James Rankin carpenter of Garvagh.
Moneydig Presbyterian Church, 24 Aug.1854, Charles Rankin, farmer, Liscall, son of Hugh Rankin, farmer, to Margaret Ann Kennedy, 18, Caheney, daughter of Samuel Kennedy, farmer.
Children of Charles & Margaret-
John Lyttle Rankin bapt. 11 June 1860 1st Garvagh Presbyterian Church
Leslie Rankin born 20 Jan.1862, bapt. 30 Mar.1862 1st Garvagh Presbyterian Church
Widow Margaret Rankin & 3 children- www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Glenkeen/Liscall/1520270
Same household 10 years later-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Glenkeen/Liscall/591342
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Administration of the Estate of the late Samuel Rankin, Liscall, Co. Londonderry, Farmer, who died 25 January 1920, granted at Londonderry 5 May 1920 to John Rankin, Farmer, the brother. Effects: £1437 5s.
Rankin John of Liscall Garvagh county Londonderry farmer died 12 February 1944 Probate Londonderry 21 April to reverend Leslie Rankin presbyterian clergyman. Effects £53 10s.
Rankin the reverend Leslie of Duniris Manse Limavady Road Londonderry presbyterian clergyman died 24 January 1949 at the City and County Hospital Londonderry Probate Londonderry 2 May to James Malseed merchant. Effects £3450 3s. 1d.
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1st Garvagh Presbyterian Church
1811 Visitation-
Liscall: Hugh Rankin, wife Ann, Chas, Maryann, Martha, Agnes
Garvagh: Widow Rankin, Agnes
1825 Visitation-
Liscall: Hugh Ranken, Ann, Chas, Mary Ann, Martha, Agnes, Eliza, Rebecca
1840 Visitation-
Liscall: Hugh Rankin, wife Anne, children Charles, Mary Ann, Martha, Nancy, Eliza, Rebecca
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Thank you very much Aghadowey, excellent work. Would you say its safe to assume that James Rankin and Hugh Rankin were closely related ?
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The leases indicate that there is probably a close relationship, possibly they were brothers. The leases and Note on Tenants are not available online but there is a very interesting marriage which I'll try to remember to post.
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That would be great, anything else you find please post. Thanks again for your help!
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This is the interesting marriage- bear in mind that I posted widow Margaret Rankin in 1901 and 1911 census earlier (reply #3)-
There's a Charles Rankin, age 55, died 1 Mar.1868 in Coleraine district.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGLJ-649M (should be Errigal Parish)
Coleraine Registry Office, 23 Jan.1872, John Gilmour, labourer, Liscall, son of Hugh Gilmour, labourer, to Margaret Rankin, widow, Liscall, daughter of Samuel Kennedy, farmer.
Havent been up near Liscall in a few hours and will be back there shortly :)
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8th December 1827. Isaac May, Shoemaker, Garvagh. Tenement containing twenty five feet seven inches in front and running back two hundred and ten feet seven inches, bounded on one side by the tenement occupied by James Rankin and on the other side by the tenement now unoccupied which adjoins the school house. In the front by the street of Garvagh and in the rear by the boundary as now laid off by Daniel Kane, being as far back as the wall built to enclose the school house tenement and measuring from front to rear two hundred and ten feet seven inches. Lives of Charles Rankin son to Hugh Rankin of Liscall, aged 5 years, George Rankin aged 3 years and Leslie Rankin aged 1 year sons of James Rankin carpenter of Garvagh[/i][/i][/i]. Lease for 31 years. NOTE: Now William McMaster.
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I have been trying to trace George Rankin, born c.1824, son to James and Brother of Leslie. I'm not sure Ann Rankin is their sister though. I have found a George Rankin in Pennsylvania, Lehigh in 1870 US census, his wife is Christina McNeal who i believe he married in Ireland but i cant find out where or when. He has several children all born in Ireland according to that census, they arrived as a family in the US in around 1865. Also, one of his children is called Leslie aged 5 in 1870, which is my strongest evidence that this the correct George.
I have struggled with finding more on the family as a whole using various sites and resources. If any one can help me connect the two brothers that would be appreciated.
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You seem to have gotten the Rankins a bit muddled.
I have been trying to trace George Rankin, born c.1824, son to James and Brother of Leslie. I'm not sure Ann Rankin is their sister though.
According to the leases Ann Rankin, daughter of James was born c1804. Leslie born c1807 was her brother.
I have found a George Rankin in Pennsylvania, Lehigh in 1870 US census, his wife is Christina McNeal who i believe he married in Ireland but i cant find out where or when.
Marriage extract easily found online- father William Rankin, date 1863.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGYQ-V41P
This extract for same marriage gives Templemore Parish (in or near Derry City)-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNR-FXM
Looks like George had been married previously.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZPG-F3N
The Rankin family arrived N.Y. 7 Aug.1865.
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Thank you very much. Yes, i am a little confused by the family. From Lord Garvaghs' Leases 8th December 1827, Leslie Rankin is only 1 year old. Whereas, Census material and death cert. put his birth year somewhere between 1807 and 1814. ??? Are Ann, Leslie and George siblings or is the age gap too much between her and the other two ? Is it two different James Rankin i wonder.
I can find nothing about George or Ann which is frustrating. I now know i have the wrong George in the US as his father was William. If anyone can shed light that would be great :)
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There was more than one James Rankin. If you look at all the leases-
1st December 1805... George Bell Gortfad and James Rankin Garvagh ... Lives of Anne Rankin daughter of James aged one year …
James Rankin
1. Annie Rankin (c1804)
8th December 1827. ... Lives of Charles Rankin son to Hugh Rankin of Liscall, aged 5 years, George Rankin aged 3 years and Leslie Rankin aged 1 year sons of James Rankin carpenter of Garvagh.
Hugh Rankin, Liscall
1. Charles Rankin (c1822)
James Rankin, carpenter, Garvagh
1. George Rankin (c1824)
2. Leslie Rankin (c1826)
Will post more later.
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That would be great, thank you 🙂
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Wondering if anyone can add anything else to this thread ? Any help whatsoever would be much appreciated.
Thank you.
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Hi does anyone have any information on Margaret Rankin, who had a baby daughter out of wedlock on 16 September 1943, she came over to Derby to have the baby. She was of Presbyterian religion and the father's name was Ted Daly of Lower Leeson Street Dublin. Thank you.
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I was just wondering if any more light can be shed on James Rankin. The only things I know for certain about him were that he was a Carpenter/Architect and he had a son called Leslie Rankin born around 1807 (death cert says he died aged 97 in 1904). Another source provided by user 'Aghadowey' suggests he could have been born in 1826).
I can find no record of James Rankin's death, so I know he died before 1864. I would guess he was born in the latter part of the 18th century. It would be good to know who he was married to and if he had other children or brothers or sisters, and maybe who his parents were (long shot). Any help would be much appreciated :)
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New topic here-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=841978.msg7084347
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I'm just giving this thread another chance to be seen by others. If anyone has other information relating to this family, then feel free to post :)