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Title: Deciphering 1664 baptism record
Post by: Latchfordian on Wednesday 19 December 18 17:15 GMT (UK)
Below is the 1664 baptism record for my 6th Great Grandfather James Marland. I'm having difficulty interpreting the 3 parts that I have highlighted.The first appears to say "fit" and that is in the same place for every baptism record in this document. Perhaps it's Latin which means something like "child of" or "born to". The second item is obviously the father's name but it's not like any name I've come across. I've no idea at all about the final item following the town name Ashton. If it's any help the full town name is probably Ashton-under-Lyne.

All suggestions gratefully received!

Title: Re: Deciphering 1664 baptism record
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 19 December 18 17:28 GMT (UK)
The second word is Caleb. The third, I think, is p[ar]ish.
Title: Re: Deciphering 1664 baptism record
Post by: Bookbox on Wednesday 19 December 18 17:31 GMT (UK)
Jonathan fil(ius) Caleb Marland of Ashton p(ar)ish

You say the record is for James Marland, but it clearly reads Jonathan.

The 2nd word is filius = son (in Latin). The bar through the letter l (making it look like t) shows that the word has been shortened.

Caleb is a Biblical name (from the Old Testament). The first letter, looking like a hot-cross bun, is a standard capital C in the handwriting of this period.

In the last word, p(ar)ish, the horizontal bar across the descender of the p shows that the word is contracted, with -ar- omitted. This is another standard abbreviation of the period.

(I was still writing while JenB was posting!)
Title: Re: Deciphering 1664 baptism record
Post by: Latchfordian on Wednesday 19 December 18 19:50 GMT (UK)
Many thanks JenB and Bookbox for helping me with this. My research had never gone back as far as 1664 before so I struggled with the unusual letters and abbreviations. Thanks for educating me! Apologies for the name confusion. James Marland is my 5th Great Grandfather and is the son of Jonathan Marland. I've been doing a lot of research on James recently so his name was at the forefront of my mind. Sorry about that and thanks again for your help.