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Title: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: PJWELLS on Friday 21 December 18 13:27 GMT (UK)
Eleanor Alice HUDSON migrated to Canada sometime between 1911 - 1930.
I suspect she migrated with her parents  Robert John  and Jessie.
She returns from Canada, possibly just to visit in July 1946  from Montreal to London, married to Charles Alexander WILLIAMS, with daughter Doreen aged 15 b 1931.
Can anyone identify the following please from Canadian resource.
Deaths in May 1935 of both Robert John HUDSON b 1875 and Jessie HUDSON nee OWEN b 1872.
Marriage of Eleanor and birth of Doreen.
Did the family return to Canada after 1946?
The HUDSON family have been identified on the 1901 and 1911 England census in Liverpool.
It is believed the two sons John and Alfred remained in England, certainly Alfred did, as i have traced him.
Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 21 December 18 14:11 GMT (UK)
Hi
Here's the marriage at St Luke Montreal anglican church
Charles Alexander Williams widower 1129 Union Avenue Montreal son of the late Edward Williams in his lifetime of Liverpool England and Ann Bayne his wife also now deceased to
Eleanor Alice Hudson spinster d of John Robert Hudson of ? Seventh Avenue Rosemont Montreal and Mary Catherine Taylor his wife 26 Oct 1929.

Eleanor  arrived in Quebec 28 Oct 1922 to stay with Auntie Mrs Langley 2354 ist Avenue Montreal Quebec .she gave her next of kin as Mary Catherine  Hudson 5 Milk St Dingle Liverpool mother.
John Robert Hudson is with her and going to live with sister in law at above address.Has £100 with him.
Mary Catherine Hudson age 41 on Megantic white Star Line  to Montreal same date  $150 to her sister at same address Montreal ..Mother Mrs Taylor 5 Miles St Dingle
Passenger list gives their address as 50 Beloe Road Dingle.

Looks like Robert John Hudson may have married Mary Catherine Simons Dec 1914 Toxteth Park.
Jessie dying in Toxteth Park June 1914 age 40

Charles Alexander Williams is in the US navy in 1941.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 14:18 GMT (UK)

FIND A GRAVE


Robert John Hudson - 14 May 1935

burial - Outremont, Montreal Region, Quebec.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108171803

Sandra
Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 14:30 GMT (UK)
Marriage - 26/10/1929

Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 14:33 GMT (UK)


Do you know if the daughter "D" is deceased (perhaps better to remove her name if you do not know  ?  There would be no marriage records for the time frame you require - Canada has very strict privacy laws.

Sandra
Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 14:50 GMT (UK)


The UK return passenger list - 12 July 1946 - states country of  future residence as England. They were going to 38 Ellensboro House, Shepherds Bush, London. Does that address mean anything ?

Sandra
Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 14:58 GMT (UK)

IF they did stay in the UK -  Shepherd's Bush is a district of west London, England, within the London Borough of Hammersmith - is this a possible death - Charles A Williams born 1889 - Registration Date Dec 1946 - Hammersmith London - 5C 721  ???

Sandra

Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 15:04 GMT (UK)
The daughter "D" was born 28 July 1930

Sandra

Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: eileenwilson on Friday 21 December 18 15:27 GMT (UK)
This may be a brother to Charles:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939Z-1Z94-CJ?i=223&cc=1618491

Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 17:20 GMT (UK)

This could be the death of Eleanor Alice Williams - born 24 March 1907 Liverpool

Eleanor Alice Williams - aged 81 years - 1988 - 193/ 64 - Tain Scotland. (Scotlands People)

Sandra

Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 17:30 GMT (UK)
Needs verified.................

This is possibly the husband of "D" -  David Marshall - 24th November 1916 - Bridge of Allan, Stirlingshire, Scotland passed away  11th February 2008 - Tain, Ross and Cromarty.

Possible - David Marshall - m- 1916 - 485/B 59 Logie (Stirling) - Scotlands people

David Marshall - aged 91 years - mothers maiden name Oldershaw - 2008 - 193/7 - Tain Scotland.

Couple possibly had 2 sons and 2 daughters.................. ???

Source anc tree - which still shows "D" as living.

Sandra

Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 17:39 GMT (UK)
Marriage Edith Blanche Oldershaw to David Marshall - 1909 - Logie Stirlingshire.

Edith Blanche Oldershaw - David Marshall - 1909 - 485/B 1 - Logie (Stirling)  - Scotlands People.

Edith Blanche Marshall - aged 89 years - 1976 - 474/634 - Stirling. (Scotlands People)

Sandra
Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 18:27 GMT (UK)

Jessie went under Mary Catherine Hudson - FIND A GRAVE  - 27 May 1935

burial -     Cimetière Mont-Royal Outremont, Montreal Region, Quebec.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108541559

Sandra

Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 19:38 GMT (UK)
Canada Ocoean Arrivals - form 20a for Mary Catherine Hudson - going to husand Robert John Hudson - names mother as Mrs Taylor - 5 Miles Street Dingle Liverpool - Going to sister Mrs Langley 2354 1 st Avenue Roseemount Quebec.
When Robert John Hudson arrived he was destimes to sister in law Mrs Langley - wife Mrs Mary C Hudson - 50 Beloe Street Dingle.
When Eleanor arrived she was going to Auntie Mrs Langley - mother Mary Catherine Hudson 5 Miles street Dingle Liverpool.

Sandra
Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 19:40 GMT (UK)

Could Jessie Hudson have passed away - June 1914 - Toxteth Park - 8b 298

Perhaps Robert J Hudson remarried to Mary C Simons - December 1914 - Toxteth Park - 8b 335

Sandra
Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 20:08 GMT (UK)
Sister of Mary Catherine Hudson.

Quebec Montreal 1911

Joseph Langley   34 Elizabeth Langley 34
Thomas Langley   2 Joseph Langley 7 months   
Ivey Langley   4
Marie Gagnon   64
Joseph Gagnon   24
Mare Gagnon   20
Praxède Gagnon   27
Annette Gagnon   22

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e002063129.jpg

Hochelaga, Rosemount, St Michaels Montreal 1921

Joseph Langley   39 Elizabeth Langley 38
Thomas Langley   12 Walter Langley   4
Ivey Langley   14 Alice Langley   8
Elsie Langley   6 Muriel Langley   2

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e003086565

Joseph Langley and Mary Ann E Gordon married March 1906 - W. Derby - 8b 551

Sandra
Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 20:16 GMT (UK)


UK Return passenger list shoes Elizabeth Langley - aged 57 years -  going to 133 Wellington Road. Dingle Liverpool - 13 July 1935 - Montreal to Liverpool - Duchess of Bedford.

UK Return passenger list - Elizabeth Langley - aged 72 years - going to 4 Limedale Road. Liverpool - 3- August 1950 - Montreal to Liverpool - Ascania.

Sandra
Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 20:17 GMT (UK)

FIND A GRAVE

Elizabeth Langley - 5 January 1956

burial - Cimetière Mont-Royal Outremont, Montreal Region, Quebec.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108200196

Sandra
Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 21 December 18 20:24 GMT (UK)

Canadian Passenger List - Elizabeth Langley born 1877 and aged 48 years - Liverpool to Quebec - 26 June 1925 - Montclare - had been in Canada 1907 - 1925 - Montreal - husband Joseph Langley - 470 Desery Street Montreal - brother William Gordon - 133 Wellington Road. Park Rd. Liverpool.
Son Thomas Langley aged 9 years, Alice Elizabeth aged 8 years and Muriel aged 5 years all travlleing.

Sandra

Title: Re: HUDSON Eleanor Alice b 1907
Post by: PJWELLS on Saturday 22 December 18 00:07 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your help .
Lots of information to absorb, specifically thanks to Sandra for the extensive input, it has certainly helped in the task to understand all the names that were known by the family. It has enabled me to trace 3/4  generations of this family to try and identify a DNA link between us. There is still a lot more researched required to identify which branch is our connection.
Surnames identified so far
Hudson, Owen, Francis, Robinson, King & Lee.
Tolhurst, Bolton, Cornell, Robins, Furrow & Bull.
The Hudson branch were all from Liverpool, the Tolhurst line from Essex, Oxfordshire, Leicestershire  and London.