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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: Fredsboy on Friday 21 December 18 20:40 GMT (UK)
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Friends,
My GGGF was discharged in 1828, I have the certificate, good conduct and with pension. How were the pensions paid? Can I use this to find addresses and when he died?
Paul
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I don't know the pensions answer but if you give his name and year of birth we could look for his death.
Does he appear on a census at all? How old was he in 1828?
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Paid into a bank. The pensioner would have to produce his discharge certificate in order to claim.
Curiously often a description of the pensioner was included to avoid fraud.
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Thx both.
I have tried every which way to find a death record; Joseph Aguirra Born 1777 came to England 1801, married twice (last 1828) then nothing. Children born Lambeth and two marriages in The Strand just over the bridge. Daughter lived all her life in North Lambeth. He was RC.
Re pension. he served in First Foot (Grenadier) Foot Guards from 1801 to 1823. He was a drummer. The discharge description has been particularly helpful. Where could i go next to dig deeper. Presumably there will be a record of when his pension stopped paying. Would he be entitled to any sort of ex military burial maybe?
any and all help and advice gratefully accepted. Merry Christmas
Paul
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Oh, I found a Muster Record - out of curiosity what was/is that?
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Joseph Aguirra Born 1777 came to England 1801,
Where did he come to England from - where was he born?
If his daughter married after 1837 then her marriage record might say father deceased.
Where are his wife/children in 1841?
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Muster records were quarterly pay lists.
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Is Mary Ann a daughter - if so she marries in 1843 and father is noted as deceased.
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Joseph was possibly born Mexico, so Spanish. Bit strange as we were at war with Spain more often than not until 1808. There are entries in FH Sites for Aguirra in London, Lambeth and Marylebone.
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Sorry, I though I put place of birth - Gaudeloupe, West Indies.
I probably know more about his daughter than my own wife now :o. I can track him in to his second marriage in 1828 and as you say, he is deceased by the 1843 daughter's 1st wedding.
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Don't now why this topic has fallen by the way. Thought it might have been very interesting to the military experts.
Had to look it up, but probable reason for his move from Guadeloupe to England was Guadeloupe was French, about 1800/01 (slave?) rebellion. Napoleon sent (more) troops and 10,000 rebels were killed. Perhaps he could not return to Spain.
In 1810, the British came (including my gggrandfathers elder brother John, (90th Regiment) and occupied the island until 1815. Then it was given to Sweden!!! for about a year but then returned to France under the Congress of Vienna.
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Thx Regorian, I have also been reading up on the history of the island - fascinating politics, history etc.
I am hoping someone will be able to tell me more about First Foot at that time - I found a load of information about the musicians in the regiment and all fits
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I would have liked to post a pic. of band of the 1st Foot Guards. I know such exist but are in the Queen's library at Windsor Castle, and rarely shown.
I will have a look for a photo of Charles Stadden's 54mm figures once sold by Tradition.
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This is the best one I can find. Drummer, 1815 Waterloo. He's wearing waterproof cover over his Belgic/Waterloo shako. It rained cats and dogs previous night. Don't know why he's wearing grey winter trousers instead of summer white.
I was looking for the parade uniforms 1801 to 1812 in London. Spectacular uniforms with tall handsome black African musicians with large turbans for the Turkish music, drum major and jingling johnny (schellenbaum).
Queen Victoria dispensed with coloured musicians (almost universal) in the army soon after 1837. Hope they were given pensions.
https://www.wbritain-collectorsclub.co.uk/products/british-1st-foot-guard-battalion-company-drummer-1815-no1/.