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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: Jackiemh on Saturday 22 December 18 03:19 GMT (UK)
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First things first - Merry Christmas everyone. Hope that you have an enjoyable festive season.
I am trying to find out more about Henry Redpath b1819 Greenwich, Kent. In 1850, he married Grace Warren in England . On 12/5/1872, Grace and children went to Canada arriving at Quebec on 'Medway'.
Henry, Grace and children are listed on 1881 Canada census in London East, Middlesex East, Ontario. His occupation is listed as sea captain. Now the tricky bit ...Grace died on 3/9/1897 at Stevens Point, Canada. In the newspaper report (Stevens Point Daily Journal 3.9.1897) it mentions that Henry '..who was the captain of an ocean merchant sailer, was lost at sea some twenty-two years ago.'
I am looking for something to confirm Henry's death. I have looked at findmypast for Canada, and their newspaper & periodicals and other free sites. Can anyone suggest where else I might look?
Jackie
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Hello,
Stevens Point is in Wisconsin, USA...not in Canada :). Grace's obituary (that you refer to) is in the Stevens Point Daily Journal, Portage County, Wisconsin.
As you mentioned, it says she came to Canada in 1872, then to Stevens Point from 1884-1887. Then, she lived in La Crosse (which is also in Wisconsin) until 1889. Then, she moved to St. Paul and then back to Stevens Point in 1895. Her children are also mentioned...Mrs C H Simpson of Stevens Point, H.A. Redpath of La Crosse, Mrs Henry Freeman of St. Thomas County, Ontario... and the late Henry Redpath, who died in St. Paul. Also a reference to a deceased daughter (not named). Interment Oakland Cemetery.
Findagrave - in Wisconsin
St. Paul, Minnesota, USA
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/164208250
RK
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Here is the record you found of the family in London, Ontario in 1881 - with Henry listed as age 62, and a sea captain.
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008199629.jpg
RK
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1897 - 22 = 1875
Obviously the 22 yrs is an exaggeration if he was alive in 1881.
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Thank you for clarifying where the family actually were. I had thought that they had just moved around Canada.
I would still like to find some confirmation on Henry's death
Jackie
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Grace Redpath is in the London Ontario directory of 1884 as the widow of Henry Redpath.
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Thank you for your input. That would narrow the time frame down ie before 1884.
I will keep looking.
Jackie
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The Mercantile Navy Lists from 1849, its first year of publication, until at least 1868, when the format changed. Mentions a HENRY REDPATH born 1819. I don't know if it is your man, but suspect it is. He received his 2nd class Captains certificate on 15/10/1847 Certificate number 15489, in London UK.
In 1849 until 1853 at least, he was Master of the London registered vessel EDMUNDSBURY. 523 tons, official number 24976. Making voyages to Calcutta and Manilla, amongst other places.
His certificate number was changed in this period to number 439. He is not recorded in the on line 1881 Crew Agreements or the Newfoundland and Labrador Agreements. My Guess is he had retired by then or died in the same year.
I would first of all search the Deaths at Sea registers from FindMyPast UK and take a look for copies of his Masters Certificate which may be on Ancestry. Failing these, Lloyd's Captains Register which is now held by London Metropolitan Archives. They have an excellent research service. This should tell you, his entire maritime career and when he was last at sea or if he was lost at sea. The place and date.
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Thank you seaweed for the mention of his time in the merchant navy. I did find something in 1845 and 1847 (which might be the one you mentioned) but put it to one side whilst looking for Henry's death.
I thought that there would be a mention in the press but shall look to the sites you listed.
Thanks and Merry Christmas.
Jackie
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Henry Redpath is my 2nd great grandfather. I’ve been searching for years for his death records. According to 2 letters from 2 seperate individuals in the family, he died in 1875. My mom always told me he died at sea and “ fell overboard”. Does anyone have any info regarding this? Thanks ahead of time.
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Captain Henry Redpath was born in Greenwich, England in 1819. He sailed to India and Australia. His family immigrated to Ontario and settled in London, Ontario in 1872. My family believed he was drowned in the Great Lakes around 1875. It’s confusing because his name is in the census of 1881. I hope this extra info helps. His death info has become a brick wall for me.
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Hello and welcome to rootschat,
Captain Henry Redpath, Certificate number 439, obtained in London UK
Lloyd's Captains Register will almost certainly have records for him. Wether or not it has details of his death is another matter. There is only one way to find out.
Lloyd's Captains Register is held at London (UK) Metropolitan Archives.They have an excellent research department.
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/family-history/Pages/paid-document-research-service.aspx
Be sure to enquire first.
I would also try a search of "Ancestry" I believe they hold some Captains records.
It may be worth posting on this forum. Some excellent researchers and historians there.
http://newsearch.boatnerd.com/viewforum.php?f=6&sk=t&sd=d&start=20
I can find no record of him being at sea in 1881
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Hello. I’ve already looked at the Lloyds Captains Register. I did find info on his voyages and ships. No record of death. I’ve been searching Ancestry and Family Search for years with no luck so far. Thanks for your info.
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Oh, and I’ll definitely inquire on the forum👍
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Henry's death is still on my unsolved queries - one of many questions.
I still think it would have been reported in some newspaper and will keep looking.
Jackie
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Yes, it’s a mystery
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Hi,
The death notices I have found for Henry jr don't mention any family (no clues to date of death of father). Has anyone looked for the obits/death notices of the other children to see if there is any information about Henry sr?
RK
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Did you go through this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_the_Great_Lakes
Some identify Captain's. If not then find the crew list for its last voyage for the time frame you are seeking. The records for the late 19thC were very good for the inland waterways of both Canada and U.S.
However, if it was early spring or late fall he may have not popped until the waters get warmer and could have drifted for miles; found and buried as an unknown.
Good luck.
Don
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That is quite a list - I have had a quick glance through and noted some shipwrecks for 1875 but if Henry died at sea and 'fell overboard', the event may not be mentioned there unless the ship went down later in the voyage.
Will study it more in detail later.
Thanks Jackie
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The obits that I have looked at so far don’t provide any info on Captain Henry.
I have looked at the shipwrecks and found no info. My family said he fell overboard. They didn’t mention any shipwrecks. But, maybe , searching again, I may find a ship he manned.