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Title: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: rdowen4848 on Thursday 27 December 18 20:51 GMT (UK)
I just can't decipher my 4x Great Grandmother's surname. It's a 1833 baptism record for Beragh, County Tyrone. It's the line that starts 28. It is in Latin.

B Elleanoram de Patricio Kelly a Margarita S?????. (Ellenor is the daughter of Patrick Kelly and Margaret but I want Margaret's surname). Ancestry deciphers the surname as Stars but I just can't see that surname around anywhere. I see that there is a second line where someone called Francisco has the same surname but I still can't read it. I guess the second line here shows the other people attending or godparents? They are shown as being from nearby Usnagh.

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Title: Re: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 27 December 18 21:03 GMT (UK)
Morrssy, mis-spelt Morrissey....maybe
Title: Re: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: rdowen4848 on Thursday 27 December 18 21:27 GMT (UK)
Definitely starts with St and only have about 5 or 6 characters
Title: Re: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: heywood on Thursday 27 December 18 21:30 GMT (UK)
The baptism of Margaret Kelly in January 1842 has the same mother but that had been transcribed as Clary. :-\
It isn’t though.
Title: Re: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: heywood on Thursday 27 December 18 21:42 GMT (UK)
There are quite a lot of Karrs. (Transcribed as Karr anyway)
Title: Re: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: heywood on Thursday 27 December 18 22:07 GMT (UK)
It is very difficult. My first thought was Morrissey or similar as Sinann suggested.
There are references to Francis Karr in the registers but I am not sure that the name is that either.
Title: Re: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: heywood on Thursday 27 December 18 22:26 GMT (UK)
Could the place be Omagh?
Title: Re: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: rdowen4848 on Thursday 27 December 18 23:26 GMT (UK)
Quote from: heywood on Thursday 27 December 18 22:26 GMT (UK)
Could the place be Omagh?

Think it's nearby Usnagh, a townland,
Title: Re: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: heywood on Thursday 27 December 18 23:29 GMT (UK)
That makes more sense. One of the records I looked at the family had their residence as Radergan which is the next townland.
Title: Re: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: heywood on Thursday 27 December 18 23:35 GMT (UK)
Tithe Applotment records shows a Francis Stars in Raudergan.

http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/clogherny.html

Title: Re: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: dublin1850 on Thursday 27 December 18 23:40 GMT (UK)
Rootsireland transcribes it as Stars, of which there were a few, though not many, in County Tyrone.

**edit oops...late to the party, sorry.
Title: Re: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: heywood on Thursday 27 December 18 23:43 GMT (UK)
Griffiths Valuation shows Francis Starrs in Radergan

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch
Title: Re: Can't read name on bap record
Post by: rdowen4848 on Friday 28 December 18 00:09 GMT (UK)
Excellent!   Thank you for this.  Very useful to know, it is likely to be Stars.  I've been staring at the word for hours now.