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Title: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Wednesday 02 January 19 11:04 GMT (UK)
The above, not to be confused with Lamond in my previous post, married Marion Henderson (1819-1845) 29 Jun 1842 St George in the Fields Church, Glasgow; he was a shipping agent but no dob or other details are known about him. They had a daughter Euphemia b 1 Apr 1843 Glasgow who m William Kirkwood (1841-1885) 18 Dec 1873 Glasgow and they had 3 children. Robert was named as her father at the wedding and was by then a Commission Agent.
Cr
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 January 19 11:33 GMT (UK)
You can find the Family on Familysearch.Org living in Cheshire;
1851 England Census
Robert Lamont   Head   M   31 Merchant Scotland
Isabella Lamont   Wife   F   29   Scotland
Euphemia Lamont   Daughter   F   7 Glasgow
Isabella Lamont   Daughter   F   2   England
Ellen Lamont   Daughter   F   1   England
Robert Lamont   Son   M   0   England
Margaret Somerville   Servant   F   33   Scotland
Mary Thomson   Servant   F   25   , Shropshire
Mary Huxley   Servant   F   21   Pulford, Cheshire

Looks like he has remarried, childrens Birth Regs in Cheshire have Mothers MN as Smith

Trish :)
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 02 January 19 11:33 GMT (UK)
St George's in the Fields,    https://www.theglasgowstory.com/image/?inum=TGSA05136

It will be this kirk's predecessor they married in!

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 January 19 11:40 GMT (UK)
A Tree has Marion dying 18 FEB 1845 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 January 19 11:56 GMT (UK)
Marriage Sept 1847
SMITH Isabella Gillespie Islington 3 235
Robert LAMONT on same page

Ancestry image of 1851 Census has Robert born Kilmarmock, Scotland
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: ColC on Wednesday 02 January 19 11:57 GMT (UK)

As you say Euphemia b 1 Apr 1843 but no record on SP?

Son William 14 Jan 1845

Was this Marions birth record, born East Lothian?
HENDERSON   MARION   JOHN HENDERSON/EUPHEMIA SANDERSON    24/08/1819   Haddington

If that is correct Roberts father was likely William?

LAMONT   ROBERT   WILLIAM LAMONT/MARY MCKEAN    12/08/1819   Kilmarnock

1841 census  family in Argyle St. Glasgow all except youngerst child born out of County.

www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a14f0d0f4040b9d6ef8a409?search_id=5c2ca659f4040be5fe50dc82

Colin
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 January 19 12:05 GMT (UK)
1891 Census
Lewisham, London
Robert La Mont   71 Retired
Isabelle G La Mont 69
Ellen Mont   41
Robert S Mont   40

From memory Euphemia is with her Henderson relatives in 1871 Census in Glasgow

Her half brother married in Glasgow also 14 Mar 1881
Robert Smith Lamond to Grace Burns
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 January 19 12:09 GMT (UK)
Death Reg
Sept 1893
Lamont Isabella Gillespie age 72** Lewisham 1d   727
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 January 19 12:14 GMT (UK)
Likely 1841 Census

Address:   Argyle St, Glasgow St Peter
Lanarkshire

William Lamont   60 Independant
John Lamont   25
Margt Lamont   25
Sarah Lamont   20
Robert Lamont   20 ***
David Lamont   15
Cathn Gunn   30
All down as born Scorland
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 January 19 12:18 GMT (UK)
Oops sorry ColC you already linked the 1841 Census :-[
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 January 19 12:26 GMT (UK)
Possible for Robert.
(I have no access to FindMyPast)

British Newspaper Archive, Family Notices
Robert Lamont
Obituary
Event Date   22 Dec 1892
Event Place   
Age   73
Birth Year (Estimated) 1819
Death Date 16 Dec 1892
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Wednesday 02 January 19 13:30 GMT (UK)
Thank you one and all for your superb research. He last appeared on the 1891 census at Lewisham, so guess he passed away there?
Marion was the daughter of James and Euphemia as you say. The church was a very ornate looking place but now flats, how sad?
Cr
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: anne_p on Wednesday 02 January 19 14:02 GMT (UK)
1891 Census
Lewisham, London
Robert La Mont   71 Retired
Isabelle G La Mont 69
Ellen Mont   41
Robert S Mont   40

From memory Euphemia is with her Henderson relatives in 1871 Census in Glasgow

Her half brother married in Glasgow also 14 Mar 1881
Robert Smith Lamond to Grace Burns

Trish, can I ask about this, especially the date provided?
There is no 1881 marriage listed on SP

My relative was called Robert Lamont and his wife ( who was previously married and widowed)  was called Grace Burns.
They married in Glasgow in 1871 and whilst his mother's name was Smith, my Robert is not connected to the family in this thread?
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 02 January 19 15:24 GMT (UK)
Death Reg
Sept 1893
Lamont Isabella Gillespie age 72** Lewisham 1d   727

You might have this already but just incase

 
Isabella Gillespie Lamont  - burial date  21 September 1893 Lewisham

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=13157905

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 02 January 19 15:41 GMT (UK)
Possible for Robert.
(I have no access to FindMyPast)

British Newspaper Archive, Family Notices
Robert Lamont
Obituary
Event Date   22 Dec 1892
Event Place   
Age   73
Birth Year (Estimated) 1819
Death Date 16 Dec 1892

Good one Trish  ;D

on the 16th ins., aged 73 Robert Lamont Brockley London

Glasgow Herald, 22 Dec 1892, Thu, Page 1

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/26771721/robert_lamont/

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Wednesday 02 January 19 17:56 GMT (UK)
I found a birth for Euphemia on SP 1 Apr 1843 with witnesses John Lamont and Peter B Henderson.
Cr
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 02 January 19 17:59 GMT (UK)
On family search as well - John Lamont and Marion Henderson

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMSG-4LQ

Pedigree Resource File -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3KY8-8T6

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Wednesday 02 January 19 18:13 GMT (UK)
The pedigree tree is mine but FSO seem to have transcribed her father as John not Robert as I read it!
Cr
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 02 January 19 18:20 GMT (UK)

Do any documents show him with a middle name ?

Sandra
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Wednesday 02 January 19 22:38 GMT (UK)
Not at marriage.
Cr
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 03 January 19 08:14 GMT (UK)
Gosh I have no idea where I found this;
Her half brother married in Glasgow also 14 Mar 1881
Robert Smith Lamond to Grace Burns

I thought it was on Familysearch.Org but cant find it now. Maybe I imagined it :-\
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Thursday 03 January 19 08:54 GMT (UK)
Guess that is Robert's son by another marriage?
Cr
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: anne_p on Thursday 03 January 19 09:57 GMT (UK)
Robert Lamont who married Grace Burns in 1871 was my relative. and has no apparent connection to the family on this thread.
He was born in Lanarkshire in 1849 and his father was not called Robert.
He appears on every census in Lanarkshire with his own parents before his marriage and subsequently with his wife and children on every census until his death.
I hold copies of every document as proof.

The date that Trish posted, 14 Mar 1881  is  actually the DOB for his son who was named Robert Smith Lamont.
This child was, in fact named for his own maternal grandfather.

All of my families, Lamont, Smith and all associated families hail from Cambuslang and have no obvious link to Robert Lamont and Isabella Gillespie Smith
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Thursday 03 January 19 10:40 GMT (UK)
Ah well, another family thread, nothing to do with mine!
Cr
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 03 January 19 13:11 GMT (UK)
Thanks for clearing that up ann-p, must have had a senior moment :)
Title: Re: Robert Lamont b Glasgow?
Post by: anne_p on Thursday 03 January 19 13:23 GMT (UK)

The 1891 census in Lewisham, clearly states that 40yr old son named Robert S is unmarried.