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Title: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: janjim on Friday 04 January 19 00:33 GMT (UK)
Hi, I wonder if someone could help me please.    One of my relations Yvonne Grace New b. 1928 at Bankstown NSW, believed to have married in 1949 to Kenneth Taylor.    I have just ascertained that Yvonne (Bonny) died in 2004.   The only information I can find on her life, is that she could have reverted to her maiden name, and lived at 9 Bevan Street, Northmead, working as an Inspector in 1977 census.
If anyone can assist, would really appreciate to know whether she had children, maybe she divorced.
Jan
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: cupoflife on Friday 04 January 19 00:44 GMT (UK)
https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/1271692
Divorce papers Yvonne Grace Taylor - Kenneth Taylor Series #4409/1950
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: janjim on Friday 04 January 19 00:50 GMT (UK)
Okay, that's great, thank you, obviously she must have reverted to her maiden name then.
Jan
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: cupoflife on Friday 04 January 19 01:17 GMT (UK)
The name NEW is not helping, only complicating searches ;D
May be able to get more info to go on from death notices of her parents or siblings. Can we please have her parents names and any deceased siblings.
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: janjim on Friday 04 January 19 01:31 GMT (UK)
Yvonne Grace New was b. 1928 to Albert Edward William Charles New and Elsie Yealland.  She had sister Fay Doreen Elsie New b. 1926 who married James Francis Rogers in 1949.  Albert New was born 26.7.1902 in Newbury, Berkshire England, came to Australia with his parents Charles Edmund & Elizabeth Mary New in 1912, and settled in Bankstown.

Albert Edward William Charles New died in 1979 at Coolangatta Q'ld, under an assumed name of Albert Edward Jeffrey, his marriage had fallen apart, his wife Elsie divorced him in 1950 with desertion.   It has been a period of many years that we had been searching for Albert New, finally through Salvation Army Searching, we managed to find his daughter Fay Rogers living in Mandurah, Western Australia.   We later found that Albert EWC New (Jeffrey) had a son born in Junee in 1946, Terrence (Terry) Jeffrey, whom would be half brother to Yvonne and Fay.

We believe that her sister Fay New moved to the United States, she had daughter Karen Francis Rogers b. 1951 was a Nurse, who died in 2018, her married name was Graunke.  We believe that she died in Bahrain, as her husband David Alan Graunke died there in 2000.    It could be however, that she returned to Australia after her husband's death, but died late last year.    We just cannot find any family members at this stage.

Complicated family, just trying to fill all the gaps on what happened to this family.

Jan
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 04 January 19 01:36 GMT (UK)
She could have remarried, no?

There are two Yvonne marriages, one in Campsie 1955 to DIVE and the other Balmain 1959 to DOWNIE.

What details do you have re:her death.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: janjim on Friday 04 January 19 01:44 GMT (UK)
Jamjar, I have absolutely no information on her death.   I found this date of death in 2018 via a tree on Ancestry.    Have made contact with the owner of the tree, and so far she has not answered my message.    We know nothing on what happened to Yvonne (Bonny), she could have remarried, the only evidence I've found is of a Yvonne Grace New living at 9 Bevan Street Northmead in 1977 census.

Can you tell me whether those two marriages, show her name as Yvonne Grace New or Rogers?
Jan

She could have remarried, no?

There are two Yvonne marriages, one in Campsie 1955 to DIVE and the other Balmain 1959 to DOWNIE.

What details do you have re:her death.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 04 January 19 01:51 GMT (UK)
For marriages, just Yvonne Taylor.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 04 January 19 01:59 GMT (UK)
Ryerson only has one Yvonne Grace death in 2004:

BATROUNEY Yvonne Grace Death notice 6-4-2004 Death at Albury Border Mail (Albury) 7-4-2004

Jamjar
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: majm on Friday 04 January 19 02:09 GMT (UK)
I wonder if NSW State Library may have copy of the Albury newspaper for that year?

https://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/research-and-collections-ask-librarian/ask-librarian-request

JM
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: janjim on Friday 04 January 19 02:18 GMT (UK)
This could well be our Yvonne then, married to Batrouney maybe, or just a partner.
Wow, difficult research, has been such a complicated family all the way through.
Don't even know if she had any children.
Jan
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: majm on Friday 04 January 19 02:24 GMT (UK)
Jan,  from your profile, you are NSW resident  :)  NSW State Library e-reader card is free and as a NSW resident you are eligible for one.   :)  But you do not need one to contact the NSW State Library to ask them to help you access that Albury newspaper.   :)  They are a very friendly lot, and you would expect an informed response within the week.   :) 



JM
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: janjim on Friday 04 January 19 02:30 GMT (UK)
Thank you JM, have just sent off a request.
Jan.
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: majm on Friday 04 January 19 02:39 GMT (UK)
 :)  fingers crossed

The readers card includes online access is full of 'goodies' and to me, is a must for NSW based armchair family history buffs... it includes so much ... for example UK newspapers,
https://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/research-and-collections-about-our-collections/eresources-collection

and of course there's the National Library's   card :https://www.nla.gov.au/getalibrarycard/
https://www.nla.gov.au/app/eresources/

JM
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: cando on Friday 04 January 19 02:51 GMT (UK)
Ryerson only has one Yvonne Grace death in 2004:

BATROUNEY Yvonne Grace Death notice 6-4-2004 Death at Albury Border Mail (Albury) 7-4-2004

Jamjar


Not your Yvonne Grace NEW.

Yvonne Grace  BATROUNEY nee SIDAWIE and her husband Norman George BATROUNEY are buried at the same location at the Albury Cemetery.

Their marriage in NSW
10062/1948
BATROUNEY Norman George
SIDAWIE Yvonne Grace
District Albury
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: majm on Friday 04 January 19 03:11 GMT (UK)
Hi, I wonder if someone could help me please.    One of my relations Yvonne Grace New b. 1928 at Bankstown NSW, believed to have married in 1949 to Kenneth Taylor.    I have just ascertained that Yvonne (Bonny) died in 2004.   The only information I can find on her life, is that she could have reverted to her maiden name, and lived at 9 Bevan Street, Northmead, working as an Inspector in 1977 census.
If anyone can assist, would really appreciate to know whether she had children, maybe she divorced.
Jan

Have you confirmed that 1949 marriage ... it should have first hand information provided by the bride about herself and her parents  :)

NSW BDM online index gives it as 3 January 1949, registered Granville district, and NO second name for the bride or groom.
#3961
Kenneth TAYLOR and Yvonne NEW.
https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history-research/family-history-research-nsw.aspx

When the NSW Supreme Court transferred some of the NSW divorce files across to NSW Archives, they culled some of the contents, including at times the actual NSW BDM certificates that were still within the closed access period at that time...  So it may well be that the divorced file may and may not have the formal proof of a marriage.   Also, those divorce files can actually be NOT divorce files at all, but just a formal in camera hearing prior to a formal judicial separation, and formal agreement re child maintenance/access .... these are all under the authority of the NSW Supreme Court ... the Federal Family Court was not established until after the federal legislation re no fault divorce of the 1970s ...  :)

JM  (as per one of my elderly rellies, this one - a former NSW Archivist involved in the transfer from NSW State Library to NSW Archives Office  :) )
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 04 January 19 03:29 GMT (UK)
Ryerson only has one Yvonne Grace death in 2004:

BATROUNEY Yvonne Grace Death notice 6-4-2004 Death at Albury Border Mail (Albury) 7-4-2004

Jamjar

I’m thinking it may not be her. From Inet Search, shows for Ancestry:

Norman George Batrouney Spouse Yvonne Grace Sedawie (Sidawie)

Jamjar
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: cando on Friday 04 January 19 04:00 GMT (UK)
Ryerson only has one Yvonne Grace death in 2004:

BATROUNEY Yvonne Grace Death notice 6-4-2004 Death at Albury Border Mail (Albury) 7-4-2004

Jamjar

I’m thinking it may not be her. From Inet Search, shows for Ancestry:

Norman George Batrouney Spouse Yvonne Grace Sedawie (Sidawie)

Jamjar

See  Reply#14  ;)
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: janjim on Friday 04 January 19 05:36 GMT (UK)
Okay everyone, thanks for that information.   Seems like I might have to wait and see if this person on Ancestry, eventually answers on whether she is a descendant of Yvonne Grace New.   
Title: Re: Yvonne Grace New - searching on her life d. 2004
Post by: majm on Friday 04 January 19 07:01 GMT (UK)
Okay everyone, thanks for that information.   Seems like I might have to wait and see if this person on Ancestry, eventually answers on whether she is a descendant of Yvonne Grace New.

Official transcription of that 1949 marriage will go along way to helping you confirm or eliminate that sighting you mention in your opening post  :)

JM

Hi, I wonder if someone could help me please.    One of my relations Yvonne Grace New b. 1928 at Bankstown NSW, believed to have married in 1949 to Kenneth Taylor.    I have just ascertained that Yvonne (Bonny) died in 2004.   The only information I can find on her life, is that she could have reverted to her maiden name, and lived at 9 Bevan Street, Northmead, working as an Inspector in 1977 census.
If anyone can assist, would really appreciate to know whether she had children, maybe she divorced.
Jan