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Title: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: Rob2 on Sunday 06 January 19 14:40 GMT (UK)
Hi

Is there anyone who can help me find out who was living in Virginia Terrace, London, in the 1830s?

By way of explanation, a few years ago an old manuscript was donated to the museum in Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, entitled ‘The History of Winchcombe’.  It is annotated ‘London, 1837’ and the first page states:-

To
John Timbrell, Esquire,
This attempt at a History
of his native Town
is inscribed
with the highest Esteem and Regard
by his sincere Friend
The Author

On the second page of the manuscript is a letter to the recipient from ‘The Author, Virginia Terrace, 13 August 1837’, the contents of which confirm that they were friends, and it includes the following line: ‘As it is, I have been able to do little more than put together the materials furnished me by yourself’.

Recent research has indicated that the likely recipient of the manuscript was John Timbrell (1762-1844) the son of an illiterate Winchcombe papermaker, who was apprenticed to a Middlesex attorney in 1777, and subsequently lived in Kentish Town.

However, the identity of the author is proving rather more problematic. It’s apparent that the contents of the manuscript were gleaned from published books and it does not contain the sort of local detail which wold have been available to someone who was living in Winchcombe in the early 19th century, so the presumption is that the author probably was from London. All we have to go on is his address - Virginia Terrace - and googling it produces references which suggest that it was later re-named Great Dover Street (or Dover Road), which is in Southwark.

If it could be established who was living in Virginia Terrace in the 1830s it might be possible to work out who the author was.

Any suggestions would be gratefully received.

ROB
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 06 January 19 21:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Rob

Some details on residents at Virginia Terrace in the 1830s show at the the National Archives.

Just insert Virginia Terrace in the 'Exact word or phrase' section https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/advanced-search

Monica
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: avm228 on Sunday 06 January 19 21:20 GMT (UK)
We may have been in touch before?  John Timbrell was my ancestor.  I will see whether I can find any link to anyone at Virginia Terrace.
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 06 January 19 21:21 GMT (UK)
Also, look to the right and an original directory listing and down to Virginia Terrace listing. This is from 1842 https://pubshistory.com/streets1832/GreatDoverstreet.shtml

Added: Just realised that the most extensive listing on the 1842 directory is for Virginia Place not Virginia Terrace.

Monica
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: avm228 on Sunday 06 January 19 22:05 GMT (UK)
A Google Books search yields a couple of candidates:

Dr J.W. Davies, of 17 Virginia Terrace in 1832 (newspapers show his estate was being auctioned by his executors in the autumn of 1837)

Mr H.W. Davison, of Virginia Terrace in 1836.
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 07 January 19 00:16 GMT (UK)
Nov 14 1836. H.W.Tullett.  In long list of donors to the licensed victuallers asylum in addition to 10 Guineas  an endowment of £5 5s

14 November 1836 - Morning Advertiser - London
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 07 January 19 00:19 GMT (UK)
04 April 1836 - Morning Advertiser - London

Advertising a ladies school for sale. Write to M.M. Of no 3 Virginia terrace.
Not clear if that is the address of the school or just a poste restante
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 07 January 19 00:23 GMT (UK)
Insolvency

Anthony Stransham Stuart aka Capt A Stuart
Was a farmer in Essex, then various addresses in London
Late of no 1 Virginia terrace, licensed retailer of beer  (now in marshalsea prison)

01 September 1837 - Chelmsford Chronicle - Chelmsford, Essex, England
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: avm228 on Monday 07 January 19 00:55 GMT (UK)
Nov 14 1836. H.W.Tullett.  In long list of donors to the licensed victuallers asylum in addition to 10 Guineas  an endowment of £5 5s

14 November 1836 - Morning Advertiser - London

He’s Henry William Tullett (artist and publican), married to Philadelphia.  They had moved to Norfolk St, Islington by 1841.  He was buried in Walworth on 9 Jan 1845, aged 46.
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: avm228 on Monday 07 January 19 01:20 GMT (UK)
Mr H.W. Davison, of Virginia Terrace in 1836.

This may be Horatio Davison, a solicitor who was in Virginia Terrace in 1841 with his father? Richard Davison.  Richard died there aged 71 in 1845 and would have been of the same generation (and social status?) as John Timbrell.  The are plenty of other households though.
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 07 January 19 01:21 GMT (UK)
21 households, I’ve just counted them  :)

(Including the registrar of births marriages and deaths)
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: avm228 on Monday 07 January 19 01:26 GMT (UK)
21 households, I’ve just counted them  :)

(Including the registrar of births marriages and deaths)

Yes, nice to see the registrar there!  Actually there aren’t that many likely authors if one assumes that the “friend” was likely to be male and of similar age and social status to John.  Having said that the inhabitants might have changed significantly between 1837 and 1841.
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: Rob2 on Wednesday 09 January 19 23:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you for all your suggestions, which I’ve been taking a close look at. It appeared from the 1832 and 1842 street directories that Virginia Terrace might have been quite a small street, but the number of families there in the 1841 census (I make it 22 in all - and have transcribed them all) indicates otherwise. The number of property owners who took out fire insurance (as per the TNA records), as well as the number of households where there was more than one servant, suggests that Virginia Terrace was a reasonably prosperous neighbourhood.

I agree that a good candidate for the anonymous author would be the solicitor Horatio William Davison (said to be aged 35 in the 1841 census) or, perhaps more likely, his father, Richard Davison (aged 65 in 1841). The ‘google books’ reference indicates that Horatio was living in Virginia Terrace in 1836 – the year before publication of ‘A History of Winchcombe’ - and the census shows that he was still there in 1841. Indeed, thanks to Ancestry we can see that in his 1833 articles of clerkship Horatio gave his address as Great Dover Street, Southwark, his master being Anthony Brown, solicitor of the High Court of Chancery, of Mincing Lane, City of London. [But that means that HWD would have been about 27 when he commenced his five years of articles, which seems quite old for an apprentice].

I’ve looked in Ancestry, but to no avail, for articles of clerkship for Richard Davison (father of Horatio), but that doesn’t mean he definitely wasn’t a lawyer. The British Newspaper Archives has a few hits for a Richard Davison, attorney, but he was in Ireland. Is there any way of establishing whether a Richard Davison was a London attorney in the late 18th C /early 19th C? Also, are there any maps of Great Dover Street in the first half of the 19th C which might show where Virginia Terrace was?

ROB
Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 11 January 19 17:03 GMT (UK)
Have a look here at an old map of London from the mid 1820s https://iiif.lib.harvard.edu/manifests/view/ids:8982548

Clip showing Virginia Terrace below. Located below the two Rs (of Dover and Road).

Title: Re: SEARCHING FOR OCCUPANTS OF VIRGINIA TERRACE IN THE 1830s
Post by: Rob2 on Monday 14 January 19 09:33 GMT (UK)
Thanks Monica. Interesting to see that the map shows Virginia Terrace as a ribbon of properties on the south-west side of Great Dover Road. So it was not really a separate street at all, but simply part of the Great Dover Road (which is sometimes referred to as Great Dover Street or Dover Road).

ROB