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Title: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: RodEast on Sunday 06 January 19 15:30 GMT (UK)
Ann Coleman was born in West Derby, Lancashire on 22 April 1874 to Thomas James Coleman and Elizabeth Lewis.  She married William James Feeney on 10 April 1894 in West Derby, Lancashire.  William died in 4th quarter 1907 in West Derby, Lancashire. 
William and Ann had the following children William, Margaret, Mary, Ellen, Patrick, Ann, Catherine and Anthony and whilst I have traced the descendants of Anthony (my relative) I have failed to find any reference (other than the children's births) after the marriage in 1894.  Any information regarding Ann, other than the births, after the 1891 census and in particular after 1907 will be greatly appreciated.
Rod Eastham
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 06 January 19 16:04 GMT (UK)
As you have not given us birth years for the children

FEENEY, ANTHONY       mmn COLEMAN     
GRO Reference: 1908  Dec Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 338
   
Another child  :-\
FEENEY, GEORGE  EDWARD     mmn COLEMAN     
GRO Reference: 1911  June Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page
Deaths Jun 1912   
FEENEY    George E    age 0    W. Derby    8b   385
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 06 January 19 16:09 GMT (UK)
 :-\   :-\

FEENEY, LAURENCE       mmn COLEMAN     
GRO Reference: 1914  March Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 652
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 06 January 19 16:17 GMT (UK)
Ann Coleman was born in West Derby, Lancashire on 22 April 1874 to Thomas James Coleman and Elizabeth Lewis.  She married William James Feeney on 10 April 1894 in West Derby, Lancashire.  William died in 4th quarter 1907 in West Derby, Lancashire. 

He was a lot older than her if this is his death
Deaths Dec qtr 1907 
William James Feeney    AGE 94   
W. Derby    8b   288

GRO has his age as 34  ;D
FEENEY, WILLIAM  JAMES     34     
GRO Reference: 1907  D Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 288

Do you have the certificate as the GRO pages look more like 94 than 34  :-\
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: RodEast on Sunday 06 January 19 16:29 GMT (UK)
William was born in 1873 and died in 1907 making him circa 34.  I can't find any ref to Ann after this date.
Rod Eastham
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 06 January 19 16:48 GMT (UK)
That means then that we are looking for these children with mother Ann after 1907

William Thomas 1894
Margaret 1896
Mary Ann 1897
Ellen 1899
Patrick 1902
Ann 1904
Catherine 1906
Anthony 1908
and possibly George Edward 1911-1912 and Lawrence 1914.  We have to consider that if Ann had not remarried she could still have continued to register children as 'Feeney'
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 06 January 19 19:13 GMT (UK)
What information does the Marriage certificate give for this couple

Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 06 January 19 19:46 GMT (UK)
Where are they in 1901?
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 06 January 19 21:48 GMT (UK)
Suspect I have tracked down one of he children

William Thomas Feeney
Age:    1
Burial    21 Aug 1895 Ford Cemetery, Liverpool

Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: avm228 on Sunday 06 January 19 22:34 GMT (UK)
There’s a burial at Ford Cemetery for a Mary Ann Feeney, 2, of 9 Bk Lodwick St, 14 Apr 1899.
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: RodEast on Monday 07 January 19 09:23 GMT (UK)
The marriage certificate says:
10 April 1894 - St Alexanders Bootle, West Derby, Lancashire, England
William Feeney - 21 Years - Bachelor - Fireman (merchant navy) - 7 Howe Street Bootle - Father Patrick Feeney Fireman (merchant navy)
Ann Coleman - 21 years - Spinster - 23 Lyons Street Bootle - Father Thomas Coleman Deceased (born in Irelands)n- Labourer
Witnesses ??? Hughes and Bridget ??

I have been unable to find any evidence of where Ann and the children were after 1894.
There is, however, a marriage registered between Ann Feeney and David Leonard 4th qtr 1915 West Derby 8B 1169 but as yet I don't know if this is her.
Rod Eastham
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: lancsann on Monday 07 January 19 09:44 GMT (UK)
there is no death on FREEBMD for a William Feeney in 1907 of the right age. As he was in the merchant navy did he die at sea

there is a William Feeney as a crew member of the Empress of Britain in 1907 - right age

Name:   William Feeney
Age:   34
Birth Year:   abt 1873
Birth Place:   Liverpool
Event Date:   6 Dec 1907
Port of Registry:   Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ship Name:   Empress of Britain
Official Number:   120940
Reference Number:   387CRE/326

edit - apologies as Rosie pointed out the GRO death says age 34 - the Freebmd one is mistranscribed. The image says 34 correction sent to Freebmd & postem will be added
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: RodEast on Monday 07 January 19 10:31 GMT (UK)
Apologies.  Although the marriage certificate gives his name as William on the birth certificate of his son Anthony (my relative born 24 August 1908) it gives father William James Deceased and mother Ann Coleman.  The registration of Williams death is mistranscribed on Freebmd and it should read:
Birth year 1873 - death 4th qtr 1907 West Derby 8B 288
William J Feeney burial 3rd January 1908 address 2 Molyneux Street.
I don't think he died at sea.
Rod Eastham
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: lancsann on Monday 07 January 19 12:46 GMT (UK)
Yes x sorry. The suggestion that he may have died at sea was made before I realised the death age of 94 was wrong
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 07 January 19 12:49 GMT (UK)
I have submitted a correction to FreeBMD - as a transcriber we do endeavour to get things right, but not always possible.  :)
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: lancsann on Monday 07 January 19 13:21 GMT (UK)
I have submitted a correction to FreeBMD - as a transcriber we do endeavour to get things right, but not always possible.  :)

I did too - see post #11 (I am also a transcriber)
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 07 January 19 14:21 GMT (UK)
Ah, well, two submissions are better than none.  ;)
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: lancsann on Monday 07 January 19 16:06 GMT (UK)
That's true BumbleB
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 January 19 16:14 GMT (UK)
All credit to freebmd transcribers one of those GRO pages does look like a 9 and not a 3.  I looked at both available images and for the first time in a long while I did not report the error  :)
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: Reedie1 on Sunday 31 October 21 22:32 GMT (UK)
Ann Coleman was my great grandmother, my grandmother was Ann Feeney. Sounds like we are 2nd cousins Rod.

Sue
Title: Re: Ann Coleman 1874
Post by: Carlablt1 on Tuesday 16 August 22 00:18 BST (UK)
Hi I see you're trying to find information on Catherine she was my great grandmother her daughter Doreen was my grandmother. Catherine (kitty). My Nanny kitty died in Coventry in 1996 x

My Nanny Doreen died in Coventry also.

Toomer was nanny kitty married name I'll just double check and Doreen was born a Toomer but passed as Logan x