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Title: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: ConfusedMason on Monday 07 January 19 10:34 GMT (UK)
https://i.imgur.com/kGiti9b.jpg - 1891 census
London: Hackney: Homerton
Number of Schedule: 133
48 Chapman Road
William Wright (Head) -  23 - Wood Chopper - Unemployed - Born in Shoreditch
Emma Wright (Wife) - 22
William Wright (Son) - 3 months

https://i.imgur.com/dI7jhhq.jpg - 1901 census
London: Hackney : Homerton
Number of Schedule: 81 (or 21?)
William Wright (Head) - 36 - Woodcutter - Employer - Shoreditch
Emma Wright (Wife) - 31
William Wright (Son) - 10 - School
Annie Wright - (Daughter) - 4 - School
Anna Wright (Daughter) - 2 - School

https://i.imgur.com/JZWKcJh.jpg - 1911 census
London - Hackney
70 Chapman Road Hackney Wick
William Wright (Head) 50 - 21 years of marriage - 10 children born alive, 6 still living - Woodcutter
Emma Wright -(Wife) - 41 - 21 years of marriage - 10 children born alive, 6 still living
William Wright (Son) - 20 - Single - Wood Sawyer (Wood Flooring, Paving)
Arthur Douglas Wright (Son) - 2
Emma Wright (Daughter) - 10
Lilian Dilworth (Sister) - 15 - Daily Girl (?) - Linen Diapers (or maybe Drapes?)


The fathers ages seem to be inconsistent so they might not all be the same family?

Please see above images I have to work with.

I am looking to see if anyone can help me find any more information about anyone on the paperwork.

I am most interested in the first son, who I believe to be my great grandfather.

More information: William Wright was born around 1891 and would move to Australia (not sure when or how), and change his name to "James Gregory Mason" by the late 1920's when he would have children with "Ada Amelia Branson".

I am trying to find any record of their crossing over into Australia, or any information about William or Emma that can lead me to any more information about their life.
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 January 19 10:57 GMT (UK)
Those images are hard to read.  You would be better transcribing them or giving us the references
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: ConfusedMason on Monday 07 January 19 11:05 GMT (UK)
Those images are hard to read.  You would be better transcribing them or giving us the references

Sure, I'll transcribe as best as I can underneath them, will be updating the post now as I go.
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 January 19 11:12 GMT (UK)
1901 - RG13 /233 f115 p12 - 4, Daintry Street, Hackney
William Wright   36   occ   Wood Cutter   bn Shoreditch, Middlesex
Emma      31   bn Shoreditch, Middlesex
William      10   bn Hackney Wick
Annie      4   bn Hackney Wick
Anna              2   bn Hackney Wick  (Should this be Emma)
Carrie Diggins   Visitor   36   bn London

Marriages Mar qtr 1890   
Farr    Emma       
Wright    William       
Bethnal Green    1c   310




WRIGHT, WILLIAM       mmn FARR     
GRO Reference: 1891  March Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 611   
 
WRIGHT, ANNIE       mmn FARR     
GRO Reference: 1897  S Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 592   

WRIGHT, EMMA  LYDIA     mmn FARR     
GRO Reference: 1899  S Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 590   
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 January 19 11:15 GMT (UK)
Those images are hard to read.  You would be better transcribing them or giving us the references

Sure, I'll transcribe as best as I can underneath them, will be updating the post now as I go.

I have done 1901 for you

It is always better to put transcripts on here rather than links to 'your pages' .  We like to have the information in front of us and not to keep switching to other places. 
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: ConfusedMason on Monday 07 January 19 11:28 GMT (UK)
Those images are hard to read.  You would be better transcribing them or giving us the references

Sure, I'll transcribe as best as I can underneath them, will be updating the post now as I go.

I have done 1901 for you

It is always better to put transcripts on here rather than links to 'your pages' .  We like to have the information in front of us and not to keep switching to other places.

Thankyou for all the help with the above information, I will do some research into how I use the info to obtain the documents (first time user).

edit: I've found the GRO website and where to enter all the information! Woo!
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 January 19 11:41 GMT (UK)
What evidence do you have that this is the William (1891) you have in Australia. 
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: ConfusedMason on Monday 07 January 19 11:47 GMT (UK)
What evidence do you have that this is the William (1891) you have in Australia.

I have the cemetary death notice here for James Gregory Mason, showing his original name was William Wright.

I also found his marriage certificate to Ada Amelia Branson stating that William Wright had parents named William and Emma Wright and was born in 1891.

It might not be 100% solid evidence, but it's really the best I've been able to find.
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 January 19 12:18 GMT (UK)
Does any of the documentation you have state where he was born
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: ConfusedMason on Monday 07 January 19 12:47 GMT (UK)
Does any of the documentation you have state where he was born

Unfortunately not... I originally got to the Census information by going through my now deceased fathers attempt at a family tree. I can only assume he might have gotten that information from a better source (his father, the son of younger William [James]).

Also when I checked on Ancestry I have a few distant cousins who have linked that census data also, but of course this is less reliable.
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: Dundee on Monday 07 January 19 14:26 GMT (UK)

I also found his marriage certificate to Ada Amelia Branson stating that William Wright had parents named William and Emma Wright and was born in 1891.


1919
BRANSON,    Ada A
RUTHERFORD, Charles G
Perth
#515 

1932
RUTHERFORD, Ada A    
MASON, James G    
Perth
#640

This marriage certificate will have provision for the names of both of his parents including his mother's maiden surname, his age, place of birth, occupation and marital status.  Are you saying that those columns are blank?

Debra  :D
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 January 19 14:33 GMT (UK)
It is always a problem with wrong information being copied on, I suspect most of us on here have seen several cases of it in online trees.  What bothers me most with this family's trees is that none of them can find a connection between this family in 1911 and the 1932 Australian marriage nor is there any indication that they have tried to track William and Emma and the rest of the children after 1911.  Shame we still have a few years wait for the 1921 census, still I will keep looking.

I see on your other post that you are going to send for certificates, can you please let us know what they say when you get them.
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: ConfusedMason on Monday 07 January 19 19:47 GMT (UK)


I see on your other post that you are going to send for certificates, can you please let us know what they say when you get them.

I definitely will update this post with all the information I get from all the certificates I've ordered. Thanks for all the help!
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 08 January 19 11:53 GMT (UK)
Hopefully they may contain some information that can confirm this English link
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: ConfusedMason on Thursday 31 January 19 08:07 GMT (UK)
Hopefully they may contain some information that can confirm this English link

Hi Rosie, the death certificate of James Mason / William Wright arrived and it said he was born in London to William Wright and Emma Farr. I went through the William Wright (seniors) marriage certificate and found out his parents were James Wright and Jane Higgins.
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 01 February 19 16:50 GMT (UK)
Thank you for letting me know, that would certainly tie in with the census you located  ;D

Birth registrations for children of Emma Farr & William Wright

WRIGHT, WILLIAM       mmn FARR     
1891  March Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 611

WRIGHT, ROSIE       mmn FARR     
GRO Reference: 1893  D Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 559   
 
WRIGHT, GEORGE       mmn FARR     
1896  March Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 583
Baptised 01/04/1896 Hackney Wick

WRIGHT, ANNIE       mmn FARR     
1897  Sept Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 592
Baptised 30 Jun 1897 Hackney Wick

WRIGHT, EMMA  LYDIA     mmn FARR     
1899  Sept Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 590
Baptised    20/08/1899 Hackney Wick
 
WRIGHT, EDWARD  THOMAS     mmn FARR     
1902  March Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 564   

Baptisms at Hackney Wick
Frederick  23/03/1904

 
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 01 February 19 18:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosie,
Just checking you have seen this other long thread.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806155.msg6667210
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 02 February 19 13:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosie,
Just checking you have seen this other long thread.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806155.msg6667210

Thank you, yes I am aware of the other thread  :)
Title: Re: William and Emma Wright (Census Available) - More info needed
Post by: ConfusedMason on Thursday 14 February 19 04:37 GMT (UK)
As I am new to researching this type of thing, how would I go about finding death certificates for people on the GRO Index if I don't know the year they died?

I know William Wright senior died after 1914 but it's a super common name and the GRO indexes only differentiate with the districts and the year died, which I don't know.