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Title: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: Brickwall Demolisher on Thursday 10 January 19 19:34 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help on the following Baptisms / Christianing please,

MARIA WENTZELL    b Mar Qtr 1848 Cardiff
LOUIS WENTZELL.    b Jun Qtr 1850 Lambeth
ALICE WENTZELL      b Jun Qtr 1850 Lambeth
GEORGE WENTZELL  b Dec Qtr 1851 Kensington

Many thanks to you all
            JUST J
Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 10 January 19 19:37 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone help on the following Baptisms / Christianing please,

MARIA WENTZELL    b Mar Qtr 1848 Cardiff
LOUIS WENTZELL.    b Jun Qtr 1850 Lambeth
ALICE WENTZELL      b Jun Qtr 1850 Lambeth
GEORGE WENTZELL  b Dec Qtr 1851 Kensington

Who were their parents?

To save any possible duplication of info - there have been a number of previous posts on this family

See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806001.msg6647413#msg6647413

in particular reply #2 on that post
Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: Brickwall Demolisher on Thursday 10 January 19 19:50 GMT (UK)
Hi CaroleW,
    Parents either JAMES / MARIA or ANDREW / ANN

      Many Thanks JUST J
Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 10 January 19 19:55 GMT (UK)
Haven't you checked GRO online to establish the mothers maiden name so you know which child belongs to which parents?

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: Brickwall Demolisher on Friday 11 January 19 07:02 GMT (UK)
Many thanks to one and all for looking / trying to help with my post. This post, I thinking, results from you all,  any findings I would welcome, appreciate. I'm not really sure the result's would be in telling me anymore than what I already know. Just having my own findings confirmed on the family name's would be at least helpful.
All your quick responses to my posts I again thank you for. I wish I could respond back to you all just as quick as you do.Unfortunately my post stroke symptoms plus with slow recovery just do not help in things that I want to do. Thanking all of you again, Happy Hunting, Best Regards,    Just J
             
Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 11 January 19 08:05 GMT (UK)
Louis and Maria have mmn = Roberts, plus there is an entry for Arthur in 1852.  Alice has Nicholson.  No sign of George in 1851 - nor his there an entry for him on FreeBMD.

Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: Brickwall Demolisher on Friday 11 January 19 08:45 GMT (UK)
Louis and Maria have mmn = Roberts, plus there is an entry for Arthur in 1852.  Alice has Nicholson.  No sign of George in 1851 - nor his there an entry for him on FreeBMD.

MARIA WENTZELL    b Mar Qtr 1848 Cardiff
LOUIS WENTZELL.    b Jun Qtr 1850 Lambeth
ALICE WENTZELL      b Jun Qtr 1850 Lambeth
GEORGE WENTZELL  b Dec Qtr 1851 Kensington

Many thanks BumbleB,
 These were name's that I had just scribbled down some time ago and have only rediscovered. George Wentzell b 1851 is on freebmd as Wentzel, with one l only. I cannot find anymore on him, no Census, no marriage, no death info., he just seems to disappear altogether. I was expecting Louis & Alice to have been twins, being born in the same Qtr of 1850, and the same area LAMBETH,???
 Many thanks again,  JUST J
Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 11 January 19 09:05 GMT (UK)
1850 - Alice shown on page 284, and Louis on page 255, so definitely not twins.

I can see a George Wentzell, mmn = Roberts - March quarter 1846 in Greenwich Registration District.  :-\  Not sure why I can't see any Wentzel birth registrations.

Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: Brickwall Demolisher on Friday 11 January 19 09:27 GMT (UK)
Many thanks again,
    Obviously Cousins being born in the same Qtr.
George Wentzell birth year should be b Dec Qtr 1841 not 1851.Sorry about that.
Regards JUST J.
Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 11 January 19 09:31 GMT (UK)
OK - George Wentzel - 1841 - mmn = Roberts
Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: Brickwall Demolisher on Friday 11 January 19 13:49 GMT (UK)
George Wentzel - Dec Qtr 1841 - Roberts - Kensington
George Wentzell,= Roberts - March Qtr 1846 - Greenwich Registration District.

Many thanks, BumbleBe,
 So with this we have two GEORGE WENTZELL's born five years apart, with the same family, seem's strange cannot find death certificate / detail' s. My only assumption can be that both have died before the next census , 1851 was taken.
               Just J

   
Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 11 January 19 14:10 GMT (UK)
There is a death for George Wentzell - 1847 - aged 1 - Greenwich.

Not showing on FreeBMD due to transcriber having difficulty with surname.  I have submitted a correction.

Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: Brickwall Demolisher on Friday 11 January 19 14:46 GMT (UK)
There is a death for George Wentzell - 1847 - aged 1 - Greenwich.
Not showing on FreeBMD due to transcriber having difficulty with surname.  I have submitted a correction.

 Many thanks for that BumbleB,
 Mistranscription have alway's been a problem with me with the Wentzell name.
 Can only expect the same thing's happened with the 1841.
 There was me thinking that the Wentzell name should not to to much of a
 problem when I first started my research. I'm sure it's contributed a lot to do
 with me not having much hair left these days.
     Regards JUST J

Title: Re: 1848 - 1852 Baptism's Look-up please.
Post by: Brickwall Demolisher on Saturday 12 January 19 20:23 GMT (UK)

George Wentzel - Dec Qtr 1841 - Roberts - Kensington
George Wentzell,= Roberts - March Qtr 1846 - Greenwich Registration District
 
There is a death for George Wentzell - 1847 - aged 1 - Greenwich.

1850 - Alice shown on page 284, and Louis on page 255, so definitely not twin

MARIA WENTZELL    b Mar Qtr 1848 Cardiff

 Hi BumbleB,

Are you able to supply anymore details i.e  /of date of Christening / Locality / Church info. at all, please, Many thanks,
       Best Regards, JUST J