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Title: Rosina Harrison
Post by: ruby's girl on Friday 11 January 19 01:12 GMT (UK)
Hi I am trying to find Rosina Harrison 1843/45  Middlesex her Father was William she went to Queensland ,Australia married John Patrick McDonald in 1870 I did find one Rosina but found she died in Kent so the brick wall is certainly solid and I need help please ???
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 11 January 19 01:37 GMT (UK)
There’s this family
All Middlesex

William   Harrison   Head   Married 28 Tobacco Pipe Maker   St Luke's
Rosina   Harrison   wife, 26 Tobacco Pipe Trimmer   St Martin,
Rosina   Harrison   Daughter   5   Stepney
Emma   Harrison   Daughter   3   Shoreditch
William   Harrison   Son.  St Luke's

HO107/1522/62/19

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGF4-6WN


Birth

    
Results: 
Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:    Order: 
HARRISON, ROSINA       PAGE     Order
GRO Reference: 1845  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 461
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 11 January 19 01:43 GMT (UK)
Baptism at St Giles Without Cripplegate says actual dob is 5th  August 1845
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 11 January 19 01:46 GMT (UK)
1861 they’ve moved to Ramsgate.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M755-NBJ
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: ruby's girl on Friday 11 January 19 01:50 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your quick reply  this is the family I had as the correct one but then someone has claimed that Rosina changed her name to Rebecca Hannah Page who then went on to marry Thomas Joseph  Squires under that name they married in 1867  the Rosina in 1861 census was included and not in the 1871 that would have been a good fit for the one in Australia as she had a child in 1866  Queensland although not marrying until 1870.  The birth in Cripplegate also was a good fit  so you can see my dilemma . The Rebecca Hannah claimed to have had a sister Emma Harrison the Ramsgate family did have Emma so there is another puzzle
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: Annette7 on Friday 11 January 19 02:10 GMT (UK)
Who is the 'someone' claiming she changed her name to Rebecca Hannah Page?  What proof do they have?

Annette 
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: ruby's girl on Friday 11 January 19 02:18 GMT (UK)
I saw the Tree on ancestry and the lady hasn't replied to my query her claim is  Rosina/Rebecca was the sister of her G grandmother Emma  On the marriage of Rebecca to Thomas Joseph as to the Father christian name unknown Page which to me is odd so possibly the Lady's information is incorrect
Thank you for your help
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 11 January 19 02:38 GMT (UK)
Rebecca Hannah Page as mother of the bride. In 1926. Bride is 42 so born 1884 ish, at Gravesend, when presumably your Rosina was well and truly in Australia?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DBY3-GNP?i=1989&cc=1307718
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: Annette7 on Friday 11 January 19 02:43 GMT (UK)
On census after her marriage Rebecca Hannah claims she was born ca.1844 St. Lukes, Middlesex.

On 1861 census there is a Rebecca Anna Page bc.1844 St. Lukes, Middlesex working as a servant in Islington who I would say is Rebecca Hannah Page i.e. can't be Rosina Harrison who was born 1845 Stepney and with her family in 1861.

Annette   
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: sparrett on Friday 11 January 19 02:48 GMT (UK)
This one?

She died in 1913 in Ipswich the Brisbane area of Qld.
1913   B17953   Rosina   McDONALD
Father- HARRISON Mother not listed

Her daughter Hannah Rebecca Read placed a Funeral Notice.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/179759581
She had married Read in 1901
 
Sue
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 11 January 19 02:52 GMT (UK)
Ah! You can see (sort of) how the algorithms might put that name out there as a suggestion then

Another example of the need to check and double check.
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: sparrett on Friday 11 January 19 02:58 GMT (UK)
At Toowong Cemetery.

No others with her
Location
10-32-8

ROSINA McDONALD
Date 03-08-1913
Burial

Sue
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: ruby's girl on Friday 11 January 19 03:06 GMT (UK)
Wow so many trying to help me this is wonderful so grateful.   after these suggestions /ideas perhaps i had better start looking to see Emma Harrison I think she went to America as the Tree I mentioned seems to be from there
 Regards Lorraine
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: Annette7 on Friday 11 January 19 03:09 GMT (UK)
I've found the tree on Ancestry and I'm sorry, but this tree, like so many, is totally up the pole.

'Their' Emma is said to have married a James Alexander Haley and census - which they have links to -clearly states that their Emma Harrison was bc.1842 Hayes, Middlesex and so definitely not the Emma Harrison (sister of Rosina) who was bc.1848 Shoreditch!!!

So, ignore this tree.   I'm sure that 'your' Rosina is the one born 1845 Stepney, dau. of William and Rosina (nee Page) and that she did not change her name to Rebecca Hannah Page.

Annette
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: ruby's girl on Friday 11 January 19 03:13 GMT (UK)
I am glad you feel the same way about the Tree as I did find birth dates were a bit askew also addresses contradicted the records I saw on line  so I think now I will just ignore all that information and just start with the family you have found for me , best do some shredding I think
Lorraine
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: sparrett on Friday 11 January 19 03:16 GMT (UK)
Ex nuptial birth  .

1866 C1403 Grace McDONALD
Parents John Patrick & Rosena HARRISON

Also
1868 C1388 William James McDONALD
Parents John Patrick & Rosina HARRISON

Others come after 1870

Sue
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: ruby's girl on Friday 11 January 19 03:20 GMT (UK)
with everyone's help  I think I am now on the right track & now just to find this Emma 1848 maybe that will lead me to finding out why the wrong information was printed
Lorraine
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: Annette7 on Friday 11 January 19 03:27 GMT (UK)
Have found the marriage of 'their' Emma Harrison to James Haley - they married 24/5/1863 Hammersmith, London and certificate clearly states that Emma's father was a James Harrison, shoemaker!!!   

I rest my case.

Annette
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: ruby's girl on Friday 11 January 19 03:37 GMT (UK)
Hi   Emma was born 1848 Shorditch,  Middlesex   1851 St. Luke  then 1861 Census  Thanet St. Lawrence Kent with her Family father William Harrison a tobacco pipe maker so after 1861 like her sister Rosina mystery starts  they were both so young in 1861 -- 13 & 15
Lorraine
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: ruby's girl on Friday 11 January 19 04:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you everyone I have Emma in Kent and her son from second marriage is the one ending in Canada so now I have some ideas to go on i.e. the Rebecca Hannah was possibly Emma's niece now just to find my confirmation with records. That wall doesn't look so high now

Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 11 January 19 04:50 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: ruby's girl on Friday 11 January 19 05:31 GMT (UK)
Deleted? did you mean my post was completed --do hope  it didn't mean I had done something wrong
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 11 January 19 05:57 GMT (UK)
No, I started  to write something and then realised it was stupid. So deleted it  :)
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: ruby's girl on Friday 11 January 19 05:59 GMT (UK)
Oh Good Thank  You
Title: Re: Rosina Harrison
Post by: wivenhoe on Friday 11 January 19 08:42 GMT (UK)

What is your source for this information?

"..Rosina Harrison 1843/45  Middlesex "


Can you list all the information on her death certificate please. It should have "years in the colony"