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Some Special Interests => Occupation Interests => Topic started by: Peterichards on Monday 14 January 19 21:13 GMT (UK)
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Ancestors in West Bromwich pudlers moulders etc but one is a boal maker, is this boat maker misspelt or an actual profession associated with iron works have googled result was a waist of time.
Thanks in advance.
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Ancestors in West Bromwich pudlers moulders etc but one is a boal maker, is this boat maker misspelt or an actual profession associated with iron works have googled result was a waist of time.
Thanks in advance.
as a newby to this site I accidentally posted same request in the Beginners advice
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Hi
Would you point us to ( the name of) the person and where you found the referenceto "boal" ?
Regards
Ray
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Sorry I can't help you but our local town is a port & has a Boal Quay, my OH (local born & bred) has no idea what the word means so I'll be watching this thread with interest. I always assumed it was a strange local dialect word but maybe not.
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I would say that it is Boat Maker. A further clue would be if he lived near a Canal or River.
One of my Ancestors was a Boat Maker on the Canal.
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.. .. .. and, poss mis-transcription of boiler(-maker)
.. .. .. and, as already mentioned, " Boal Quay ", as in Kings Lynn Norfolk
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There are a couple (or more) Manders families from the Black Country area - they may or not be connected. Some were boatmen others were involved in construction of boats and related matters - so I am thinking that your 'boal' should have read 'boat'
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Which is why I asked for details of the source . . . . .
" Boal Quay " (to me) s/be "Boat" if only because the word Quay was used.
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Peterichards
You are forgiven [ ;) ]
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For the sake of completeness, boal is also a grape type.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boal_(grape)
Martin
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BOAL, see Bole, Bowl.
Found in an online book "Full text of "The English dialect dictionary, being the complete vocabulary of all dialect words still in use, or known to have been in use during the last two hundred years; founded on the publications of the English Dialect Society and on a large amount of material never before printed."
EDITED BY JOSEPH WRIGHT, M.A., PH.D., D.C.L.
DEPUTY PROFESSOR OF COMPARATIVE PHILOLOGY IN THF. UNIVERSITY OF OXFORD
VOLUME I. A C
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Popped in to the Fisherfolk museum in Kings Lynn this morning & a helpful gentleman said he'd always believed 'Boal' means 'mooring' which sounds great in the context of Boal Quay but doesn't make any sense for the original post, sorry.
I've learnt something anyway ;D
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As requested the person whose occupation was recorded as boal maker was -
William Richards 18 yrs ( in 1871 ) brother of Mary H Richards living in Loveday street West Bromwich Staffordshire. The census form shows boal maker quite clearly.
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The individual at the foot of the same page - Charles LLoyd - is a Bottle Washer, but the 2 "t"s in the word bottle look just like "l"s. Also the actual "l"s tend to have a loop in the uprights. See the double "l" in William and compare with the "t" in his brother Robert's name
Have you found William Richards in later censuses and if so, what was his occupation then?
On the evidence so far, my money would be on him being a Boat Maker.
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Boat Maker is an odd term. You don't make boats you build them. Although saying that there are a number of Boat Makers listed with that occupation in Staffordshire in the 1881 census, but looking at some it could actually be Boot Maker.
Stan
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Boat Maker is an odd term. You don't make boats you build them. Although saying that there are a number of Boat Makers listed with that occupation in Staffordshire in the 1881 census, but looking at some it could actually be Boot Maker.
Stan
My late Byker born father-in-law didn't wear boots - he wore boo-ats.
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Boat Maker is an odd term. You don't make boats you build them. Although saying that there are a number of Boat Makers listed with that occupation in Staffordshire in the 1881 census, but looking at some it could actually be Boot Maker.
"listed with that occupation" I should have said "transcribed with that occupation"
Stan
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Hi
"The census form shows boal maker quite clearly."
? RG10 / 2986 / 22 / p37 / . . . . .
Quite clearly shows that most occurrences of "t" are written without the cross part of the "t" in effect as "l".
Including the "West" in West Bromwich ( title of the census page ).
Also "Robert" and "brother", Lorna "sister" , "Esther" Oldham next door,
Elizabeth andJohn "Watson" neighbours.
"Agent" "Servant" "Worcester" "Worcestershire"
Are you reading from a transcript or what you can "see" ??? ???