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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: heathera1940 on Wednesday 16 January 19 14:45 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I am looking for the death of Robert Dumble b.c 1827 in Tweedmouth Northumberland. He married Isabella Wilson and later moved to Edinburgh. Isabella died in Canonsgate in 1887. Robert was a blacksmith. I am sure he died in the Edinburgh area. any help appreciated
Heather
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Was he still alive when Isabella died do you know or was she already a widow?
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There is a death for a Robert Dumble, blacksmith, in 1884, aged 57 in Newington. He was married to Isabella Wilson
Gadget
I'll PM you for e-mail to send you a copy
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many thanks for the replies. I have got Isabella's death in Canonsgate 1887.
Cheers Heather
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many thanks for the replies. I have got Isabella's death in Canonsgate 1887.
Cheers Heather
??? I thought you asked about Robert's death, Heather. I have put up the details of his death in 1884.
Gadget
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I did ask about Roberts death. I also have a death for an Isabella Dumble in Canonsgate in 1887, who I think is Roberts wife.
Thanks
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There is a death for a Robert Dumble, blacksmith, in 1884, aged 57 in Newington. He was married to Isabella Wilson
Gadget
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The 1884 death gives his parents as Alexander Dumble, fisherman and Fanny Dumble, MS White. Informant was Alexander Dumble, son.
Is that correct?
Gadget
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Yes that's the one. Mother's forename was Frances.
Many thanks
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Sorry I gave you the wrong information. Robert Dumble 1827 was the iligitimate son of Alexander Dumble and Rachel Clarke. All born Berwick on Tweed. He was a blacksmith.
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It's me again. Alexander, Robert's father went on to marry Frances Thompson. B.1811. Tweedmouth Northumberland. Lol
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So Robert's son, Alexander was correct with the first name - Fanny - but got the surname wrong?
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Just thinking - do you have Robert and Isabella's marriage info?
Gadget
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Is this Robert with his family in 1941:
West End Street, Tweedmouth (add- HO107/318/9/8/11)
William Dumble 58, fisherman
Deborah, 69
William, 19, blacksmith
Robert, 14
All born County
Is William,snr, Robert's grandfather?
In 1851, still in Tweedmouth, he's married to Isabella, (born Ireland) and they have a son, William, aged 1. He's recorded as a blacksmith.
HO1072421/172/4
Gadget
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Just trying to follow through to see if it is the correct death.
The 1861 shows the family names coming through in the children - William, Robert H, Alexander, Thomas, James, Deborah Ann.
RG9/3884/69/11
Gadget
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I assume this is Robert's baptism:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBRP-QMN
I think that son Alexander, informant on his 1884 death record(see previous posts), might have got muddled with the names of Robert's parents. I've seen quite a few mistakes on Scottish death certs. He got Isabella Wilson correct though.
Gadget
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Alexander Dumble born to Alexander Dumble would have known his mothers name was Frances but did he know her maiden name? Was she Frances Thompson when she married Alexander Dumble but was she born Frances White?
When he filled in Robert Dumble (born 1825) death certificate he might not have know Rachel Clarke's name at all.
He might have just put in what he thought was right.
A death certificate is only as good as the informants memory
What year was Alexander Dumble the son of Alexander Dumble and Frances born?
What year was the last child of this couple born, I'd look in the GRO if that child was born late enough to have a mothers maiden name registered and see what it is.
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Whiteout - I'm not sure if you might have got confused -
Alexander Dumble, who was the informant on the death cert, was the son of Robert Dumble. This Alexander's mother was Isabella Wilson. He informed that Robert's mother was Fanny MS White and his father was Alexander Dumble.
Robert was baptised 11 Nov 1817, as the link in my previous post*
Gadget
*added
I assume this is Robert's baptism:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBRP-QMN
I think that son Alexander, informant on his 1884 death record(see previous posts), might have got muddled with the names of Robert's parents. I've seen quite a few mistakes on Scottish death certs. He got Isabella Wilson correct though.
Gadget
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Robert Dumble was born in 1827 in Tweedmouth Northumberland, and was the iligitimate son of Alexander Dumble and Rachel Clark. Alexander married Frances Thompson b c1811 daughter of Jane Thompson.
All of Tweedmouth Northumberland. I am sure Roberts son Alexander who registered the death would not have known about Rachel being Roberts biological mother.
Thanks