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Title: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: maxcam on Monday 21 January 19 18:57 GMT (UK)
Jane was born 11th March 1859 but as her father appears to be illiterate her surnames had various spellings e.g. Macallain, McAllum, McCallian. Jane married Andrew Buchanan 29th November 1878, widowed 1890.She remarried 1890, in Wishaw,  to James Brownlie also known as Docherty. I am trying to trace Jane,s parents. Ann Nisbet and John McCallum who married February 1852 in St Mary,s R.C. Church , Hamilton. I have a feeling her father was born in Ireland so that might prove difficult but any help with her mother, Ann Nisbet would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: ColC on Tuesday 22 January 19 11:19 GMT (UK)
Records on Scotlandís People

MCCALLYON or NISBET   JOHN to NISBET   ANNE   23/2/1852   Hamilton, St Mary's   Lanark

The only Anne I could find, no RC births.

NISBET   ANNE   JAMES NISBET/JANET JARVIE    19/06/1825   Gorbals, Lanarkshire

Have you found any census records for the family?

Colin
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: Xinia :) on Tuesday 22 January 19 11:30 GMT (UK)
hidden in the depths of my tree is:

Walter Buchannan McCallum son of James Mc Callum Edinburgh...

bn 1824  and had a daughter Jane

I havent followed this line yet.. so  know, no more :)

xin
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: Lodger on Tuesday 22 January 19 11:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Maxcam,

Lucky for you we are under a heavy blanket of snow in this part of sunny Lanarkshire and I don't have much else to do   ;D

I have some of the records for Cambusnethan cemetery and old churchyard, situated in the village of Cambusnethan, between Newmains and the town of Wishaw.
your Jane didn't make it easy for me to find her but, although I don't have a date or place of burial I do have a good idea of her burial place at least. The records I have end at about 1917 and there are a few gaps, mainly around 1900 - 1903. I will get back to you if I find her date of interment.

This is what I did find and it's quite complicated! The clue to the whole thing was your statement that Andrew Buchanan had died in 1890, I had tried to find her using the McCallum spelling and had drawn a blank, finding Andrew opened it all up.

All dates here are of interment.

ANDREW BUCHANAN, surfaceman, Cambusnethan, aged 36 years. Married.
Parents - Andrew Buchanan & Catherine Carmichael.
Interred in plot D321 on 22nd January 1890.

STILL BORN FEMALE DOCHERTY, Cambusnethan.
Parents - James Docherty & Jane McCallion.
Plot D321 - 7th May 1894.

MATTHEW DOCHERTY, Cambusnethan, aged 2 months.
Parents - Thomas Docherty & Esther McCallion.
Plot D321 - 17th January 1895.

MABEL FLORENCE BROWNLIE, Gillhead, aged 3 years & 4 months.
Parents - James Brownlie & Jane McCallion.
Plot D321 - 1st October 1900.

ANNIE BUCHANAN, Motherwell, aged 5 months.
Parents - John Buchanan & Annie Fleming.
Plot D321 - 6th July 1908.

That's all for D321.
Next plot (or Lair as we call them here) is Number 29 Low Public. This is one of the original sections of the "new" cemetery, which was opened around 1861.

ESTHER JOHNSTONE, housewife, Newmains, aged 33 years, married.
Parents - Adam Nisbet & Margaret Watson.
Plot 29 Low Public - 3rd May 1862.

WILLIAM JOHNSTONE, pauper, Newmains, aged 33 years, widower.
Parents - John Johnstone & Ann Hamilton.
29 Low Public - 16th May 1862.

ANN McCALLAN, housewife, Newmains, aged 35 years, married.
Parents - Adam Nisbet & Margaret Watson.
29 Low Public - 25th September 1862.

ANN McCALLION, Newmains, aged 6 years.
Parents - John McCallion & Ann Nisbet.
29 Low Public - 7th February 1863.

ADAM BAIRD, Overtown, aged 14 months.
Parents - Philip Baird & Fanny Nisbet.
29 Low Public - 15th July 1867.

JOHN JOHNSTONE, engine cleaner, Omoa Poorhouse, aged 58 years. Unmarried.
Parents - William Johnstone & Esther Nisbet.
29 Low Public - 19th December 1910.
Registered owner of this plot at the time of this interment was -
Robert Semple, ironworks labourer, Seddonville, Newmains.

Finally, I found an interment in the old churchyard, the plot was owned by the Aitkenhead family and this is the husband of Elizabeth Aitkenhead who was buried there on 5th February 1889 aged 65 years.
PETER NISBET, furnace keeper, Newmains, aged 57 years. Married.
Parents - Adam Nisbet & Margaret Watson.
Old churchyard on 27th January 1873.

so, now you have Ann Nisbet, her brother Peter and her sisters Esther and Fanny (probably Frances).
Now you have to get to work on this lot!
good luck,
Lodger.




Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: Skoosh on Tuesday 22 January 19 11:48 GMT (UK)
Completely off topic Lodger, I learned just this week that the first Loco built in Scotland was in 1838 at Kipps engine shed in Airdrie! Fancy that kid!  ;D

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: Lodger on Tuesday 22 January 19 11:51 GMT (UK)
The only good thing to ever come out of Airdrie  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: Lodger on Tuesday 22 January 19 11:54 GMT (UK)
Maxcam,

The Aitkenhead plot in the old churchyard has
ROBERT NISBET, aged 20 months, interred 15th July 1890.
The plot also contains various others, surnames of Aitkenhead, McKendrick, Smithson and Walker.
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 22 January 19 12:17 GMT (UK)
The only good thing to ever come out of Airdrie  ;D ;D ;D
My great-grandmother was born in Airdrie, Lodger.
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: Lodger on Tuesday 22 January 19 12:24 GMT (UK)
"My great-grandmother was born in Airdrie, Lodger."

I bet she was on that train Forarian!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 22 January 19 13:39 GMT (UK)
"My great-grandmother was born in Airdrie, Lodger."
I bet she was on that train Forarian!   ;D ;D ;D
LOL!
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: maxcam on Wednesday 23 January 19 17:25 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for all the info. Looks like I am back to a great big sheet of paper and a pencil. I found it so difficult finding Jane, given all the different spellings of her surname. It will take me some time to digest all the data. No snow here! Just treacherous ice. Scary out there!
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: Lodger on Wednesday 23 January 19 18:07 GMT (UK)
Could there have been two Jane's? Cousins perhaps, one married to docherty and one married to Brownlie?
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: maxcam on Thursday 24 January 19 18:08 GMT (UK)
After a lot of rooting around, I have come up the marriage certificate of Jane. Although the spelling of her surname is given as McCallion all other details check out. i.e.age, parents names, the fact that she is a widow. The groom,s name is noted as Jas. Docherty, widower. Both are living at 7 Quarry Row Cambusnethen. The first clue as to why Jas. may have changed his name to Brownlie is that his mother's maiden name is Brownlie. On the 1891 census both James now calling himself Brownlie, and Jane are living at 333 Craigneuk.4th Ward, Wishaw. with Jane's 5 children with Andrew Buchanan.. By 1901 James & Jane had James, born 1892, Annie born, 1896. One daughter was stillborn in 1894, another Mabel Florence died aged at 3 years . There seems to be some switching between the names of Docherty & Brownlie. Another of these little mysteries!
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 24 January 19 20:19 GMT (UK)
It may simply be that James's birth was illigitmate, reputed father Docherty and mother Brownlie. Very common at the time for children to use either surname or simply decide to use one and then stick to that.

Monica
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 24 January 19 20:22 GMT (UK)
... I am trying to trace Jane,s parents. Ann Nisbet and John McCallum who married February 1852 in St Mary,s R.C. Church , Hamilton. I have a feeling her father was born in Ireland so that might prove difficult but any help with her mother, Ann Nisbet would be appreciated.

You might have forgotten this old post of yours here www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=645243.0

Monica
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 24 January 19 20:26 GMT (UK)
This may be James' birth, from Family Search index (original on SP):

James Johnston Brownlie b. 25 Jul 1858
Birthplace CAMBUSNETHAN,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Mother's Name Elizabeth Brownlie

James' 1901 census entry gives his birth place as Cambusnethan c. 1859.

Monica

PS: To add to your mix of surnames, the surname Johnston in this James' name could indicate the surname of the reputed father for this birth...
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 24 January 19 21:12 GMT (UK)
So...possibility for James in 1861 - all the children born in Cambusnethan:

John Dougherty 35 labourer coal b. Wishaw, Lanark
Elizabeth Dougherty 35 b. Edinburgh
William Dougherty 11
John Dougherty 5
James Dougherty 3
Thomas Dougherty 7 Months

Address: Cambusnethan

However, not sure if Elizabeth married John as I think the youngest Thomas was also registered as Brownlie:

Thomas Brownlie b. 3 Sep 1860
Birthplace CAMBUSNETHAN, LANARK
Mother's Name Elizabeth Brownlie

From this, and a guess from me, a possibility that Elizabeth took up with John Docherty after the birth of James. The youngest Thomas born after they got together. Someone has a family tree (maybe yours?) with the original marriage cert for James to Jane in 1890. One of the witnesses showing as Thomas Docherty.

It may simply be that James's birth was illigitmate, reputed father Docherty and mother Brownlie. Very common at the time for children to use either surname or simply decide to use one and then stick to that.
 

The other alternative on use of names  ::) is as we are potentially seeing above for this James, whereby mother marries or starts relationship with new man and the child may decide to take on (and off) the name of the step father or mother's partner.

Who said it was easy  ;)

Monica
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: maxcam on Saturday 26 January 19 15:07 GMT (UK)
Many thanks once again, Monica, for the further info as well as a possible reason for the use of two names. I shall keep going with the search.
Title: Andrew Buchanan born Fintry 1879
Post by: maxcam on Saturday 26 January 19 17:33 GMT (UK)
Another brick wall! Andrew Buchanan was born in 1879 to Andrew Buchanan and Jane McCallum. He appears on 1881 census but not on 1891. No death notified during that ten years and surely he would have been too young to emigrate.  Any ideas would, as usual, be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Andrew Buchanan born Fintry 1879
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 26 January 19 17:57 GMT (UK)
1881 shows birthplace as Fintry Stirlingshire and the family were in Stirlingshire but you have posted on the Lanarkshire board?
Title: Re: Andrew Buchanan born Fintry 1879
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 26 January 19 18:02 GMT (UK)
Looks like Andrew snr died and Jane remarried to James Brownlie.  Andrew jnr is easily found on 1891 entry as he is under correct name/birthyear/birthplace
Title: Re: Andrew Buchanan born Fintry 1879
Post by: maxcam on Saturday 26 January 19 18:16 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that but I must be missing 1891 entry for him.Is it census? I am also having a problem with his sister. JAne born 1889, again Fintry, but she moved to Cambusnethan when her mother remarried in 1890. Jane appears on 1901 census but not on 1911. In the meantime I'll return to Andrew jnr. I am trying to fill in all the blanks re Jane senior's 9 children. I have completed 5 of them Trying to complete missing two with Andrew Buchanan Senior then I'll move on to missing two with her second husband. Paper and pens everywhere! Many thanks for your help. Jane Buchanan/Brownlie/Docherty has turned into something of a heroine of mine.
Title: Re: Andrew Buchanan born Fintry 1879
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 26 January 19 18:56 GMT (UK)
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Is it census

Yes - all children are on 1891 - Search under James Brownlie b 1861 Cambuslang and living in Lanarkshire.  Or Alexander Buchanan b Fintry 1879 - either will get the entry

Dalziel ED 15 Page 10 Line 14

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JAne born 1889, again Fintry, but she moved to Cambusnethan when her mother remarried in 1890

So you were aware that Jane had re-married?  No mention in your post

Jane was only a year old when Jane snr married James Brownlie and the family are in Dalziel in 1891
Title: Re: Andrew Buchanan born Fintry 1879
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 26 January 19 19:06 GMT (UK)
Related post;

topics merged

Annie
Title: Re: Andrew Buchanan born Fintry 1879
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 26 January 19 19:47 GMT (UK)
And Maxcam's reply dated 24th January on that post   ::)

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On the 1891 census both James now calling himself Brownlie, and Jane are living at 333 Craigneuk.4th Ward, Wishaw. with Jane's 5 children with Andrew Buchanan..

Todays post

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Another brick wall! Andrew Buchanan was born in 1879 to Andrew Buchanan and Jane McCallum. He appears on 1881 census but not on 1891

So why have you posted for 1891 info when you already have it?

Todays post after my reply

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Thanks for that but I must be missing 1891 entry for him.Is it census? I am also having a problem with his sister. JAne born 1889,
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: maxcam on Sunday 27 January 19 14:07 GMT (UK)
OOPS, Sorry, getting a bit mixed up with dates. Yes I have 1891 census but lost them after that.
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: maxcam on Sunday 27 January 19 15:22 GMT (UK)
Found Andrew Buchanan born Fintry 1879. He is on Census of 1911 as living in Bellshill, Lanarkshire. He married Janet McLennan of Carluke, Lanarkshire in 1906 and by 1911 had two sons Andrew aged 6 and John aged 2. He died in 1947. It is also possible they had a daughter, Jane born 1915. The same names are repeated throughout the family. Still no luck with his sister, also Jane, born 1889 in Cambusnethan. She appears on 1901 Census in Cambusnethan but not on 1911. I have tried marriage records and census records for whole of Scotland but too many possibilities. She possibly went into service as her Mother had done before her. I'll keep plodding on. Of the nine children Jane Buchanan/Brownlie/Docherty had I have managed to track down six, so still a way to go.
Title: Re: Jane McCallum, Buchanan, Brownlie
Post by: maxcam on Monday 28 January 19 19:31 GMT (UK)
I have a feeling that both Jane Buchanan born 1889 in Cambusnethan and her half brother James Brownlie, born 1892, again in Cambusnethan both emigrated, possibly to Australia, between 1901 and 1911. I have tried every avenue e.g. marriage/census/death here, with no result. How do I best pursue my hunch re Australia? As usual your experience is greatly appreciated. Nearly there with the descendants of their Mother, also called, Jane.