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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Leitrim => Topic started by: Listerdale on Wednesday 23 January 19 20:50 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to produce an 'Ancestor Chart' for my Grand Daughters. I have my Wife's and my trees back to the late 1700's /early 1800's. My Daughter in Law's Mothers tree back to the mid 1800's, but struggling with her Father's (deceased) family. Any help would be much appreciated.
I have gleamed most of my information from an autobiography of an 'Agnes Mary Shanley' (1929 / 2015) who's parents were Patrick Shanley (c1891 / 1960) and Agnes McGurren (McGurran) (c1894 / 1968) who married in Mohill in 1913. Both are buried in Cloonmorris Catholic Graveyard, Mohill, Co. Leitrim, along with a Son Kevin Patrick (c1922 / 1934). Other children that I have are Christina (1925 / ?), Ellen J. (c1932 / ?) and Kevin J. (c1935 / ?). I do not know if any are still living.
I have no parents for Patrick Shanley. The parents of Agnes McGurren I believe were Nicholas McGurren and Mary ? from Strokestown, Co. Roscommon.
I do not wish to produce a lopsided Ancestors Chart for my Grand Daughters, so any help to obtain information would be much appreciated.
Thanking you in anticipation of some news,
Listerdale.
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c reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for shanley of Mohill http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nal/
click on Marriages etc
You'll see Patrick's marriage etc
I could just post a direct link but yo're better off looking yourself, maybe find siblings etc!!
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You'll get father's names so you can look for them on census 1901/11....
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Thank you Hallmark,
I will look at the link tomorrow.
Listerdale
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The records are easy enough to use once you find first one, keep an eye out for siblings marrying etc as they very often lead to kin still alive in area.
Once you find your way around you can return as and when you want, or as new discoveries are made plus if you work back in time and have names etc you have Parish records https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0175.
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1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Roosky/Drumard_Mageerraun/1479254/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Roosky/Drumard__Magerraun_/661231/
Peter Shanley and Mary Anne Hagan/Hogan 1881
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11003/8023023.pdf
Patrick's marriage 1913
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09883/5590313.pdf
Patrick 15th Sep 1891
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02367/1883886.pdf
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Death of Francis Hagan 1879 age 74 a widower informant son Joseph
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06525/4880359.pdf
marriage of Joseph Hagan son of Francis to Bridget Skelly 1881
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11011/8026197.pdf
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Kilglass_South/Culleenaghamore/1671647/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Roscommon/Kilglass_South/Culleenaghmor/789307/
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Michael Shanly widower age 82 died Druminard 1895 informant son Peter
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1895/05922/4681389.pdf
possible wife Ann Shanley still married age 70 Druminard 1891 informant son Peter
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06054/4725363.pdf
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Agnes McGurran 1894 dtr of Nicholas and Mary Roddy number 452
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02259/1849300.pdf
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Roosky/Clooncolry/1479174/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Roosky/Drumard__Magerraun_/661216/
June 22nd in Billerica 1891 Massachutetts,America
Nicholas McGurran age 40 son of Martin and Mary married Mary K Roddy age 22 dtr of Michael and Anne both Irish
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N44Z-WMG
edited to add
looking at the above marriage cert it says second marriage for Nicholas , he may have been married to Sabina ? prior to Irish Civil Registration
There is a birth 1864 in Massachusetts to Nicholas and Sabina maiden name not given
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FXHH-KTG
1880
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH68-198
if right his age ties in with the 1901 Irish census and makes him well into his fifties when marrying Mary Roddy
Nicholas died 1906 age 76 ?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05569/4563801.pdf
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Mary McGurran widow died 1938 age 73 informant son in law Thomas Fallon
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1938/04755/4273976.pdf
Thomas appears to have married Gertrude McGurn in 1920 with Christina McGurran as witness
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09252/5349048.pdf
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John McGurran 1927
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1927/09106/5293889.pdf
Joseph 1929
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1929/09071/5281742.pdf
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At the time of Agnes McGurran's birth in 1894, they were living in the townland of Ballycummin in Co Roscommon. This is south-east of Carrick-on Shannon Co Leitrim.
https://www.townlands.ie/roscommon/ballintober-north/kilmore/kilmore/ballycummin/
KG
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Hello Dathai,
Thank you for all your time and trouble finding the hyperlinks to documents. So far I have only given the documents a quick look, but they look very promising. I will now print them off and study them further.
Thank s again,
Listerdale
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Hello Kiltaglassan,
Thank you for the hyperlink to the map. The Townland of Ballycummin, is not far from the two locations that I have, namely Carrick -on-Shannon, and Mohill, so they would not have moved far.
You have been a big help.
Thank you for your time and trouble, looking up the information.
Listerdale
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Roosky/Drumard_Mageerraun/1479254/
Francis,Michael and Peter and a sister Mary Elizabeth 1882 all went to America before 1911
Peter married 1914
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24Q9-ZJZ
Peter died a widower in 1947
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WP6-ZN9
Michael married Rose Christal a Sligo girl in 1922
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24W2-7C4
Francis married a widow Elizabeth Keenan nee Dooris possibly from Longford
also in 1922
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24WB-N1G
died 1931
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WG4-BLH
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Hi again Dathai,
Thank you again for this set of hyperlinks. They have been most helpful.
I have previously looked on the 'Familysearch' site and not been able to fine this information. As you have found all this information in a very short space of time, I wonder if you have some connection to this Family!
With you information I have been able to expand the tree considerably.
Thank You,
Listerdale
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Just a matter of looking at the records on the Link I posted, then checking census.....
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Hi Listerdale
no i have no connection to the family i just love doing genealogy and helping out.
meanwhle Kilbarry Cemetery,Roscommon
Nicholas death date out by one year probably erected long after his death.
https://historicgraves.com/kilbarry/ro-klby-0149/grave
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Joseph's daughter Mary 1936
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F1W8-ML3
likely grave
https://historicgraves.com/kilbarry/ro-klby-0011/grave
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John and Bridget nee Hanly
https://historicgraves.com/kilbarry/ro-klby-0148/grave
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possible son of the above Pat died 2010 in Sligo
also commemorates the Hanly family
https://historicgraves.com/kilbarry/ro-klby-0213/grave
https://rip.ie/death-notice/pat-mcgurran-sligo-town-sligo/123530
https://www.pressreader.com/
sorry his inquest was in the above in 2011 died from Asbestos age 74 not showing when i make the link,also say's he worked in England ,America and Sligo general hospital
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Christina McGurran 1898
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02071/1790861.pdf
married Francis Connolly 1932 in Manhattan
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24DX-RVN
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Andrew McGurran born 1904
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01837/1717244.pdf
married Mary O'Donovan in Manchester 1927
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVZB-SG2B
appears to have had a son Andrew born and died 1929 in Manchester
they then got the boat to New York 1930 from Manchester going to Aunt Mrs Brophy and giving next of kin as Mrs McGurran ,Rooskey
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G5WP-9SS8?i=585&cc=1923888
1930 census a grocers clerk
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X42S-F3W
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Thank you to all members who have read my message and supplied information. A very big thank you especially to Dathai for all the information supplied.
I think that I have sufficient information now