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Title: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: steve albin on Monday 28 January 19 12:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Folks,

Re: Joseph Mitchell

When my ggg grandfather married at Hoo St. Werburgh, Kent in 1828 the wedding certificate shows that he is a widower.

He was born in Staines in 1793.

Would it be possible to see when he first married please?

Regards
Steve
Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: deebel on Monday 28 January 19 23:17 GMT (UK)
FamilySearch has a few Joseph Mitchell marriages prob parish registers

30/8/1822      Susana Laler               St James Paddington
18/2/1824      Harriet White               Edmonton Middx
27/6/1824      Mary Spendley             St Dunston Stepney
12/2/1823      Margaret Evans            St Mathew Bethnal Green

If you can find deaths of any of these prior to 1828 then that might be a possibility

There could be more....

deebel
Title: Joseph Mitchell, RN 1793 to 1852
Post by: steve albin on Tuesday 29 January 19 00:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Folks,

When my GGG grandfather married in 1828 at Hoo St. Werburgh, Kent I noticed on his marriage certificate he was a widower.

Is it possible to find out who his first wife was please?

“Copy of the Register of Baptism from the Parish         
of   Staines in the County of Middlesex . -                         
1793   July 25th.”

     Joseph son of Joseph and Fanny Mitchell


                           Signed by me R. Govett Vicar


Take care
Steve
Title: Re: Joseph Mitchell, RN 1793 to 1852
Post by: solidrock on Tuesday 29 January 19 01:33 GMT (UK)
Do you know his Place and DOB?
Title: Re: Joseph Mitchell, RN 1793 to 1852
Post by: steve albin on Tuesday 29 January 19 03:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your reply.

I have upgraded my original request to show his bapt info.

Regards
Steve
Title: Re: Joseph Mitchell, RN 1793 to 1852
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 29 January 19 12:27 GMT (UK)
I was hoping there would be children with Elizabeth Rachel Mitchell in 1841 Census that may be from Josephs 1st Marriage but alas no;

1841 Census
Falmouth, Cornwall
Elizabeth Michell 30
Charles Michell   7
Ames Michell   6 (image Agnes)
All down as born in County

May I ask how you know that is Josephs Baptism 1793 as he does not appear on Census with Wife/Children?

Trish :)
Title: Re: Joseph Mitchell, RN 1793 to 1852
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 29 January 19 12:32 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: bearkat on Tuesday 29 January 19 22:08 GMT (UK)
The entry in the parish register has RN after Joseph' signature. I wonder if his service record would shed any light on where he was before 1828.
Title: Re: Joseph Mitchell, RN 1793 to 1852
Post by: steve albin on Tuesday 29 January 19 23:30 GMT (UK)
Hello Trish,

Thank you for your question.

Joseph Mitchell served for 50 years in the RN and his birth is shown with his RN attestation papers.

And yes, I have not been able to see any extra kids due to his previous marriage. Maybe his first wife died at child birth.

Steve
Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: steve albin on Wednesday 30 January 19 02:41 GMT (UK)
Hello Bearkat,

I have nearly 40 years of RN records for Joseph Mitchell but there is still no hint as to his first wife. 99% of the time he was at sea for years at a time.

Steve
Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: solidrock on Wednesday 30 January 19 02:53 GMT (UK)
Perhaps he married abroad.
Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 30 January 19 11:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks Steve for that info re his attestation papers :)
Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 30 January 19 11:54 GMT (UK)
Do you know what ships he served on before 1828? Anything in the allotment records?
Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: bearkat on Wednesday 30 January 19 14:44 GMT (UK)
An interesting (RC) baptism in Portsea, a naval town

   5 Mar 1826 Josephus MITCHELL son of Josephi MITCHELL and Elizae BOZO

BOZO seems to be a Serbian name  ???

He could have found a bride anywhere.

Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: steve albin on Thursday 31 January 19 12:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your help so far.

Please see attached the ships Joseph Mitchell sailed on.

Many years ago I obtained a copy of all his RN career moves.

TNA sent me so many large photo copies of the original RN hand written pages.
Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: bearkat on Thursday 31 January 19 12:56 GMT (UK)
He was certainly busy! - barely time to marry and father children
Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 31 January 19 13:16 GMT (UK)
Gosh didn't he do well to rise from Ordinary Boy to become Master of the Temeraire!

Just looking at the allotment declarations: it looks like he was a married  man from 1 August 1813 while serving on the Dextrous/Dexterous. Nothing after that. His wife indentified only by an initial: T or F?

The first symbol is We for wife (as opposed to Mo for mother).

The allotment was payable at Plymouth.
Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: steve albin on Friday 01 February 19 00:34 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the clue ShaunJ.

He must have married very young....maybe 18 to 20 yo.

I had a quick look at marriages, Devon County.

There were only five weddings that came up on my search.
Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 01 February 19 11:06 GMT (UK)
It occurred to me that he may have been the clerk who kept the allotment ledger on the Dexterous - which could explain why his wife is the only one not to be named.

It looks like the allotment stopped on 11 March 1815.
Title: Re: Josph Mitchell married 1828 Hoo St. Werburg
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 01 February 19 22:03 GMT (UK)
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It occurred to me that he may have been the clerk who kept the allotment ledger on the Dexterous - which could explain why his wife is the only one not to be named.

No, that's nonsense. The ledger deals with many vessels and was obviously maintained in an Admiralty office onshore.