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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: nattai on Tuesday 29 January 19 00:31 GMT (UK)
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Hi All
Can anyone help with finding the burial site of Mr Louis Bilton who was a china painter-Artist.
He was born about 1860 in Stoke on Trent.
Death 14 NOV 1937 • Sidbury, Devon, England aged 78 years
Reg Dec 1937
District of Honiton
Devon County Vol 5b page 11
He had a cousin who was very close to him named Anne L Wolfe.
I would love to find where he is buried and if he has a headstone.
I would also like to find out if he had probate.
Any help would be so appreciated
kind regards
Tim
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On Ancestry...
Name Louis Bilton
Event Type Probate
Event Date 4 Jan 1938
Event Place Devon, England, United Kingdom
Event Place Devonshire, United Kingdom
Beneficiary's Name Anne Louise Wolfe
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Hi solidrock
Thank you so much for your help with the probate, it is very much appreciated.
I hope someone out there can help find his grave.
kind regards
Tim
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It's a long shot but his Will might show a burial place request. I found such a request in my 2xgt.aunt's Will.
You can buy a copy for £10 from this site: https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
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Hi nanny jan
Thank you so much for the information and the attachment for the will request site.
I found out he may have died in Sidmouth Devon.
Thanks again, I am sure he was buried but there are so many Cemeteries in Devon. He may have had a obituary in the paper which may also say where he was buried but I don't have access to the UK papers.
Kind regards
Tim
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Hi nattai,
Are you sure that you have the right Louis Bilton in Devon? One source suggests that he died in 1910. https://maas.museum/inside-the-collection/2012/10/03/rare-doulton-desert-plate-painted-by-louis-bilton-with-australian-wildflowers/
He was in Sydney, Australia 1885 to 1887. He was employed by Doulton & Co in Burslem from 1892.
Biography...
https://www.daao.org.au/bio/louis-bilton/biography/
I think this is him in 1881 Regent Street, Stoke Upon Trent age 21, China Painter. Living with his parents.
Page Number 35
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 2728/51
Added...
In 1891 he was living in Maer, Newcastle Under Lyme. age 31, Potters Artist.
Page Number: 9
Registration Number: RG12
Piece/Folio: 2147/ 18
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Hi solidrock
He did not die in 1910 that source is incorrect, and a lot of articles have his death us unknown.
I am looking for the burial site for the Louis Bilton, artist and painter of Australian wild flower for Doulton.
My Louis Bilton defiantly died on the 14 November 1937, of the Saint Clair Malden Estate Sidford Sidbury Devonshire. He left his estate to his cousin Anne Louise Wolfe, who was a spinster.
He left a very large estate of some 5172 pounds so one would think he had a nice headstone. I just hope his cousin buried him nicely with a large headstone ... but trying to find his grave is a puzzle.
also thank you so much for the attachments to web pages.
kind regards
Tim
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Seems strange that there's no records apart from the death of him being in Devon. Maybe he was cremated or buried with relatives.
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Hi solidrock
Yes it is strange, I do know there is a death notice for him in the Evening Review newspaper, East London, Ohio USA, sat Nov 27th 1937 page 3. This is due to him living there with his cousin Anne Louise Wolfe from 1925-1930. However I can not view the whole article in that paper.
I don't think he was cremated but yes he may have been buried with family in another county, I have just gone off for a copy of his will, through the site you sent me.
Do you know how I can get a copy of his full probate file ?
Kind regards
Tim
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You can get a copy from https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk cost 10 gbp.
Have you got a copy of his death cert. I should give the informant and cause of death.
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Hi
That was the site I order the will from, I just assumed
it was the will only but I pray it also has his probate documents.
I don't have his death certificate as yet.
Regards
Tim
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You can get a PDF copy online. PDF’s cost £6, https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
BILTON, LOUIS 78 Order
GRO Reference: 1937 D Quarter in HONITON Volume 05B Page 11
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Thanks
When I get the Will/probate and if that does not give me the information I needI will order his Death C.
Thanks for sending the info
much appreciated
Tim
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The death certificate will not give any funeral/burial/cremation details. You will need to find the nearest cemeteries or churchyards to his home to look for his burial. Devon County Council should have a list.
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The death certificate will not give any funeral/burial/cremation details. You will need to find the nearest cemeteries or churchyards to his home to look for his burial. Devon County Council should have a list.
But it will give informant and cause of death which maybe helpful. His burial is not in the NBI.
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A useful site:
http://eastdevon.gov.uk/cemeteries/register-search/
You might get some help or advice here:
http://www.sidbury.org.uk/sidbury.php?pageid=54&c=5
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Hi
For the notes pile . . . . . .
Nat Prob Calendar
Anne Louise Wolfe, Fort Villa, Butts Road, Heavitree, Exeter.
d 24/9/1959
Probate Exeter 14 May to Celia Bilton, Spinster.
Effects £3894/18s/4d
? Birth 1871 S StokeonT 6b 210 (mmn BELTON)
? Samuel Wolfe / Caroline Bilton m 1864 S StokeonT 6b 291
Take care, there is also a 1976 death of an Annie Louis Wolfe (Southampton)
Death Mar 1976 BASINGSTOKE 20 196 ANNIE LOUISE Wolfe ( DoB 20MR1889 )
Ray
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I'm a bit concerned about the Saint Clair Malden Estate Sidford Sidbury Devonshire mentioned in his probate record. I can find no reference to it at all online either in the 1930's or at present.
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Hi
Maybe the address should read = "St Clair", Malden Estate, etc., etc..
ie "St Clair" is the name of the house . . . . .
On the road out of Sidmouth heading towards Sidbury, in Sidford,
there are Malden Lane, Malden Road and Malden Close,
right on top of each other.
A cemetery is just south.
Ray
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Hi
Maybe the address should read = "St Clair", Malden Estate, etc., etc..
ie "St Clair" is the name of the house . . . . .
On the road out of Sidmouth heading towards Sidbury, in Sidford,
there are Malden Lane, Malden Road and Malden Close,
right on top of each other.
A cemetery is just south.
Ray
Tried all combinations of the address and still nothing online, strange.
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1933 map of the area (to the south) of Sidford shows a house "MOLDEN" where Malden Lane is now.
(Opposite the other 2x prev mentioned roads)
https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/313900/091700/10/101053 (https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/313900/091700/10/101053)
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Hi Everyone who has replied and help with this search I would like to say thank you to all of you it is very much appreciated.
Kind regards
Tim
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One step closer?
St. Clair, Malvern Road, Sidmouth ( EX10 9EY )
fyi
"Molden" would now appear to be "Malden Lodge" Malden Lane, a care home.
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Hello, the address of Louis Bilton is actually in Sidford so he may well be buried at the church there rather than Sidbury.. Also depends what his beliefs were to as to which church he may have attended, if any.
I have a screenshot of his will if you need.