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Title: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Claire64 on Tuesday 29 January 19 21:38 GMT (UK)
This photo is among my family photos for Stocksbridge WRY.  The local history society has a copy on which is written, "1897. Mr Beazley's Garden Party Queen Victoria's Jubilee".  However in the Society's  description it says Mr. Brearley, with the additional information that it's the local Congregational Church members.
Beazley is not a local name, and I can find no one on the census or BMDs [Wortley RD] of that name.  Brearley is common however.  It's the Diamond Jubilee.  I've had this photo on the local FB History Forum but no one recognises anyone in it or the building.  One suggestion is that the odd structure is a temporary one.
The hats are odd...fancy dress?
Any thoughts welcome! 
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Viktoria on Wednesday 30 January 19 10:25 GMT (UK)
The hats are typical of the period,when older women would still be wearing
earlier styles and the younger newer, ie almost Edwardian.
It looks like the porch of the building behind,very unusual,wonder if it is lead covered? There is a house window further along with sham or full blinds partly rolled up.
Puzzle about the name alteration.
I am sorry but have no idea what WRY stands for ,that might help if we knew.
Hope you get some helpful info.
Viktoria.
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: sarah on Wednesday 30 January 19 10:37 GMT (UK)
West Riding of Yorkshire I think  :)
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Old Bristolian on Wednesday 30 January 19 10:43 GMT (UK)
I think it's a conservatory - there appears to be plant life inside. Perhaps the glass panels have been whitewashed or perhaps it is just reflection,

Steve
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 30 January 19 10:57 GMT (UK)
Further info of it has it as in Manchester Road, Stocksbridge

http://www.stocksbridgehs.co.uk/collection/_/photographs/stocksbridge-area-2/congrectional-church/sacc022_1113/

I think it looks like a conservatory or the like.

Gadget
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Treetotal on Wednesday 30 January 19 12:19 GMT (UK)
Further info of it has it as in Manchester Road, Stocksbridge

http://www.stocksbridgehs.co.uk/collection/_/photographs/stocksbridge-area-2/congrectional-church/sacc022_1113/

I think it looks like a conservatory or the like.

Gadget

Well spotted Gadget....so it is Mr. Brearley.
Carol
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: josey on Wednesday 30 January 19 12:35 GMT (UK)
The hats are odd...fancy dress?
If it was a jubilee celebration I expect many of the women decorated their hats with red, white & blue cockades, bows or garlands.
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 30 January 19 12:39 GMT (UK)
Not a conservatory.It looks to be a free-standing greenhouse or something similar.

If there is a Stocksbridge directory for that period it may list the "gentry."

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.so it is Mr. Brearley

We already knew that he was Brearley in the local history society's description.
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Treetotal on Wednesday 30 January 19 12:45 GMT (UK)
Not a conservatory.It looks to be a free-standing greenhouse or something similar.

If there is a Stocksbridge directory for that period it may list the "gentry."

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.so it is Mr. Brearley

We already knew that he was Brearley in the local history society's description.


I know...Read Claire's post again  ::)

Carol
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 30 January 19 12:49 GMT (UK)
Not a conservatory.It looks to be a free-standing greenhouse or something similar.


I did say:



I think it looks like a conservatory or the like.

Gadget
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Claire64 on Wednesday 30 January 19 16:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks all.  It's odd that no one here (in the Stocksbridge area, West Riding of Yorkshire) recognises the building.  I know it was a long time ago!! but no one has other photos of it.
Yes, the History Society says Manchester Road, but I assumed that meant the Congregational Church was on Manchester Road, which is is, but you know what "assume" means...I might take another look at Manchester Road and Brearley on the census.
And I have no idea why the Society has changed Beazley (which is written on the photo) to Brearley, without giving an explanation.  There are loads of Brearleys on the census, I got fed up looking for one that might be relevant. My message to them wasn't answered.
Yes, I like the hats explanation.  No one looks very happy though!!
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: josey on Wednesday 30 January 19 18:09 GMT (UK)
There was another thread a while ago about a picture of a Jubilee party the mayor gave in [I think] Worthing where the ladies' hats had decorations. I cannot find it though.....
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 30 January 19 18:19 GMT (UK)
There is a David Brearley, Builder and Contractor

1901 4337/31/7

His address is Manchester Road, Deepcar


House built abt 1897
http://www.stocksbridgehs.co.uk/collection/british-railway-journal-no-37/photographs/deepcar-area-2/manchester-rd-and-carr-rd/damc022_1970/
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 30 January 19 18:24 GMT (UK)
1891 3792/54

David Brearley’s address is Spring View, Bolsterstone.
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Claire64 on Wednesday 30 January 19 20:52 GMT (UK)
If this is the right Mr. Brearley and the right house, here is another view of if.
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 30 January 19 21:09 GMT (UK)
I only posted David because he seemed to be prosperous.
There are other Brearleys around - I wonder if he is the older man in the centre?
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Trishanne on Wednesday 30 January 19 21:12 GMT (UK)
It would be interesting to see the back view of this photo, because this doesn't look like the house in the photo. There is a square bay on the one in the photo.
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Claire64 on Wednesday 30 January 19 21:21 GMT (UK)
I only posted David because he seemed to be prosperous.
There are other Brearleys around - I wonder if he is the older man in the centre?

David Brearley built the house in the other photo, in 1897, so I wondered if he was the right one.  I am still looking into this!
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Claire64 on Wednesday 30 January 19 21:23 GMT (UK)
It would be interesting to see the back view of this photo, because this doesn't look like the house in the photo. There is a square bay on the one in the photo.

It would indeed but I can't find one! However the house in question still stands, so I've put it on our local FB forum to see if anyone knows.  I've found a few photos, one of them, frustratingly, cuts off at the vital point.
Also, the ivy on the windows looks well established. Not a new house.  Though according to the 1901 census, David Brearly lived very close to this new house.
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Humdinger on Wednesday 13 February 19 03:07 GMT (UK)
Further info of it has it as in Manchester Road, Stocksbridge

http://www.stocksbridgehs.co.uk/collection/_/photographs/stocksbridge-area-2/congrectional-church/sacc022_1113/

I think it looks like a conservatory or the like.

Gadget

If you click on the link that Gadget posted and then click on the picture to enlarge there is writing on the photo that says "1894 Mr Beazleys Garden Party Queen Victoria's Jubilee". The Brearley may be a typo and that may be why he can't be found on the census records. Just a thought.  ???

Patti
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Claire64 on Wednesday 13 February 19 08:39 GMT (UK)
Yes, we discussed this, but there were no Beazleys in the area. I finally heard back from the Stocksbridge History Society and they have no idea why its labelled as Brearley on their site, and they have no further information. Come to a dead end with this  :-\
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: IgorStrav on Wednesday 13 February 19 09:22 GMT (UK)
Yes, we discussed this, but there were no Beazleys in the area. I finally heard back from the Stocksbridge History Society and they have no idea why its labelled as Brearley on their site, and they have no further information. Come to a dead end with this  :-\

Still a great picture, Claire, and may give some people design ideas for their projected conservatory........ ;)
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Rushkinov on Tuesday 13 August 19 18:28 BST (UK)
David Brearley was the Chairman of Stocksbridge Town Council.  It may be the rear of the Town Hall which he built.  He also built the row of houses next to the Water Company House and lived in one of them at 124 Manchester Road.  His father John Brearley built the Congregational Chapel.
Title: Re: What is this building? 1897 WRY Mr Brearley's Garden Party
Post by: Claire64 on Tuesday 13 August 19 19:47 BST (UK)
David Brearley was the Chairman of Stocksbridge Town Council.  It may be the rear of the Town Hall which he built.  He also built the row of houses next to the Water Company House and lived in one of them at 124 Manchester Road.  His father John Brearley built the Congregational Chapel.

I think I discounted him in the end - someone on our local Forum pointed out the date the house was built (Water House) and the maturity of the ivy on this photo.  Coincidentally, I was looking at this again the other day having seen a reference to a Mr Beesly (Beezley was written on the photo) in Stocksbridge, but he left for Sheffield much, much earlier than this.

I never did find anything more out.