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Title: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Wednesday 30 January 19 09:13 GMT (UK)
My great grandfather George Gustave Chevreau (abt 1871) was married to Marie Margueritte Dupuy (1875)  Both were apparently born in France but I can't find any trace of their existence in France on Ancestry. The earliest record of them that I've found is in the 1911 Census in UK. Can anyone help or does anyone know the best way of tracking down French records as I've not made any headway with this at all. Thanks!
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: Viktoria on Wednesday 30 January 19 10:16 GMT (UK)
Does it not say on the census return their place(s) of birth?
I mean not just France of course.
Hope you can move forward with this.
Viktoria.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Wednesday 30 January 19 10:54 GMT (UK)
https://www.myheritage.fr/names/george_chevreau
if you can go and have a look

FS :
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:36VM-MDK
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Wednesday 30 January 19 11:26 GMT (UK)
Does it not say on the census return their place(s) of birth?
I mean not just France of course.
Hope you can move forward with this.
Viktoria.
Thanks Viktoria - sadly it just says France.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Wednesday 30 January 19 11:30 GMT (UK)
https://www.myheritage.fr/names/george_chevreau
if you can go and have a look

FS :
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:36VM-MDK

Thanks for that. It seems that I'm not the only one who gets stuck at the same point. Such a shame there was no more detail about where they were born in France. I remember my Nan saying that there had been a nun in the family who ran away from the convent (In France) to get married to one of the Chevreau's. I don't know if it's true or if it might have been Marie Dupuy.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Wednesday 30 January 19 12:51 GMT (UK)
Any hint about George Chevreau 's job?
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Wednesday 30 January 19 13:16 GMT (UK)
Any hint about George Chevreau 's job?
On the 1911 census it says he was a 'hotel timekeeper'.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Wednesday 30 January 19 13:18 GMT (UK)
It also says he'd been married for 18 years which means married around 1893 but haven't found a record for that in either England or France (yet).
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Wednesday 30 January 19 13:30 GMT (UK)
I have no idea about what was or is a "hotel timekeeper", do you?
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Wednesday 30 January 19 13:43 GMT (UK)
I have no idea about what was or is a "hotel timekeeper", do you?
I think it was someone who kept track of hours staff worked and dealt with payrolls, that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Wednesday 30 January 19 13:54 GMT (UK)
May be in an important hotel, in London?

I tried to find the marriage on freebmd, using different ways, and got no answer except Jeanne Gabrielle Chevreau . They probably married in France.

Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Wednesday 30 January 19 15:17 GMT (UK)
But they did not marry in Paris, I checked.
Do you have any other hints, name of a brother or sister, area where one of them lived ?
Did they die in England?

Strangely enough, I can't find them in 1911 Census.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: jayaygee on Wednesday 30 January 19 15:33 GMT (UK)
I have found the marriage of a George G Chevrot to Hendrika T Schoof Lambeth RD 3rd quarter 1919.
Could this be a remarriage after the death of Marie Margueritte in 1912 ?
No help for going back however I'm afraid even if by any chance it is your Georges Chevreau.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Wednesday 30 January 19 15:38 GMT (UK)
But they did not marry in Paris, I checked.
Do you have any other hints, name of a brother or sister, area where one of them lived ?
Did they die in England?

Strangely enough, I can't find them in 1911 Census.

Ah, their name was transcribed incorrectly from the census. On the census is says 'Cheverean'.  I don't know any brothers or sisters names unfortunately.  Marie died in 1912 in childbirth - I managed to get a death certificate for her but not George.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Wednesday 30 January 19 15:40 GMT (UK)
I have found the marriage of a George G Chevrot to Hendrika T Schoof Lambeth RD 3rd quarter 1919.
Could this be a remarriage after the death of Marie Margueritte in 1912 ?
No help for going back however I'm afraid even if by any chance it is your Georges Chevreau.

Thanks - I'll take that into consideration - I guess it's possible he re-married.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Wednesday 30 January 19 15:46 GMT (UK)
Worth checking , but I found on FS Henriette Chevreau, mother Schoof , Lambeth, 1916, and Georgette Marie Chevreau, no mmn given in Croydon
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Saturday 02 February 19 14:10 GMT (UK)
But they did not marry in Paris, I checked.
Do you have any other hints, name of a brother or sister, area where one of them lived ?
Did they die in England?

Strangely enough, I can't find them in 1911 Census.

Ah, their name was transcribed incorrectly from the census. On the census is says 'Cheverean'.  I don't know any brothers or sisters names unfortunately.  Marie died in 1912 in childbirth - I managed to get a death certificate for her but not George.
Familysearch source :
The name was transcribed Cheverean and Chevrean for the children , Marie Dupny was mistranscribed too. I can't believe I did not think so. Many people write  U and N in the same way .
Dupny is clearly DUPUY.
George the eldest son was born in England, was 14 in 1911. (Can't see in FS they were married for 18 years).
But strangely enough, there were/are some CHEVREAN and DUPNY in England. Search FreeBMD.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Saturday 02 February 19 14:15 GMT (UK)
GRO has a George Marcel CHEVREAN mmname DUPUY, born Lambeth 1896 (called Chevreau on Freebmd)

Marie died Marie M CHEVREAU 1912, Kingston district
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Saturday 02 February 19 15:31 GMT (UK)
https://www.filae.com/nom-de-famille/nom-CHEVREAU-par-commune
Here is the list of the villages and towns where the name Chevreau was found from 1891 to 1915, on Filae . You can't have the same list before 1891. We can  try to search the Tables Decennales around 1870 (when George Chevreau was born).
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Saturday 02 February 19 16:18 GMT (UK)
Ah it says they had been married for 18 years on the 1911 census.

No problem finding records for the other Chevreau's even the mis-spelt ones but just not the pair who were supposely from France. I'm wondering where else I can go with this. Maybe I need to work out how they might have travelled from France to England.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Saturday 02 February 19 16:18 GMT (UK)
https://www.filae.com/nom-de-famille/nom-CHEVREAU-par-commune
Here is the list of the villages and towns where the name Chevreau was found from 1891 to 1915, on Filae . You can't have the same list before 1891. We can  try to search the Tables Decennales around 1870 (when George Chevreau was born).
Thanks, that is very helpful!
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Saturday 02 February 19 16:27 GMT (UK)
I  searched the first 10, without success. Will go on little by little.
It is not impossible that he was born Chevereau, I also look for this name.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 03 February 19 10:58 GMT (UK)
The children of the couple Chevreau (Cherean, Cheverean)/Dupuy (Dupny) were : George Marcel 1896,Yvonne 1899,Robert Leon 1901,René Gustave 1903,Margueritte P 1906, Georgette M 1908.
I think that George Gustave remarried quarter Sept 1919 with SCHOOF, FreeBMD gives  CHEVROT George Gustave .
Then they had Henriette G 1916, Gustave R 1919 and Juliette 1919 same quarter , must have been twins, all with surname CHEVREAU.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: josey on Sunday 03 February 19 11:08 GMT (UK)
I have found the marriage of a George G Chevrot to Hendrika T Schoof Lambeth RD 3rd quarter 1919.
If you got this certificate it should give George's father's name & occupation.

Have you found any of th efamily on 1939 to give exact dates of birth?
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 03 February 19 11:16 GMT (UK)
I have found the marriage of a George G Chevrot to Hendrika T Schoof Lambeth RD 3rd quarter 1919.
If you got this certificate it should give George's father's name & occupation.

Have you found any of th efamily on 1939 to give exact dates of birth?

Valeriet , I think Josey gives a good advice .
We arent' able to find the marriage Chevreau Dupuy, but you could learn interesting infos with the certificate of the 2nd marriage.
if you decide to order it , do so before 16 th feb , the cost will be higher after this date.
Searching 1939 is also a good idea.
Don't you have any idea about his date of death , I cannot find any thing by any means.

ADDED : I searched 10 more villages in France , no finding yet.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: josey on Sunday 03 February 19 11:25 GMT (UK)
The price of certificates at https://www.gro.gov.uk will go up from £9.25 to £11 on 16 Feb, so it would be a good idea to get it before then.

ADDED: Probably totally unrelated but a George Chevrot age 69, French, priest, last address in UK Rutland Gardens Hotel, London - went to NY on the Queen Mary in Feb 1946, intending to live in Canada.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 03 February 19 11:29 GMT (UK)
You can order a PDF, it's cheaper.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: josey on Sunday 03 February 19 11:31 GMT (UK)
You can't get .pdf for a marriage, only birth & death.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Sunday 03 February 19 11:47 GMT (UK)
Thank you Joger and Josey for all of the help :) I'm definitely going to order the certificate - hopefully it will give some answers and clues :)
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 03 February 19 12:00 GMT (UK)
You can't get .pdf for a marriage, only birth & death.
Sorry, too bad.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 10 February 19 10:05 GMT (UK)
Just in case your GG Chevreau was the husband of Hendrika SCHOOF , here is his death act  (21 august 1930 Paris 8th arrondissement) and by the way his date and place of birth in France .
This could explain why his death cannot be found in England.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 10 February 19 10:30 GMT (UK)
http://archives.eure.fr/ark:/26335/a011440744732hszbvW/176f221a32
slide 171/536
Friday 2 september 1870, 11 AM,
Birth certificate ("acte"in french) of Georges Gustave ,male, born yesterday at 9 PM in Verneuil, Eure (departement ), Paris Street, in the home of his father, presented to us , son of Leon François CHEVROT, miller, 41,and Stélie Louise MASSOT , his wife,,no occupation, 27, married in Les Aspres , Orne( departement) , on the 10 september1860, witnesses are  etc…

Signature of the father .


Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Monday 11 February 19 08:20 GMT (UK)
Archives de l'Orne
Search Saint-Martin d'Aspres (not les Aspres)n M+T 1832 1862
slide 178/192

Can't put a link for theses archives.
His parents's marriage.
The name is written CHEVREAUX. Slide 177 , his father's sister married , her name was written CHEVERAUX ! 

They sign :
L.Chevrot and Stélie Massot

Translation  will follow
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Monday 11 February 19 10:20 GMT (UK)
Though it is not mentionned in his 2d marriage "act " Leon was previously married  to Marie Armandine Brosset or Brossot 2 feb 1857 in Ecorcei ( Ecorcey in the past), Orne. No child . She died 2 march 1859 in Saint Martin les Aspres. She was Glove worker
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Monday 11 February 19 11:02 GMT (UK)
Found a brother and a sister in Saint Martin d'Aspres
Leon Victor Elphege first born child 14 july 1861
Louise Adelaide Stelie 25 feb 1863
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: josey on Monday 11 February 19 14:45 GMT (UK)
All amazing finds, joger, well done.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Monday 11 February 19 15:22 GMT (UK)
Thank you Josey.
Indeed it wasn't easy because of the different spellings of the surname , even in France.
As you can see on the documents  Leon signs CHEVROT but the public officer writes CHEVREAUX (absolutely same sounding though) .And the forename is written either George or Georges (most often it is Georges in France).
If Valeriet comes back I can go further searching the ancestors.
Now I am searching Georges's military file. Not an easy search because you find this in the "recruitement bureau" where a boy lived when he was 20.And I don't know where he was living in 1890, and moreover , the military files aren't on line in all the departements)
If he was still in France I guess he was living in one of the departements around Orne or Eure , or Paris .

FOUND him , Alençon Bureau de recrutement nb 878
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Monday 11 February 19 16:30 GMT (UK)
Here :
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Post by: joger on Monday 11 February 19 16:38 GMT (UK)
here nb 2
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Monday 11 February 19 16:38 GMT (UK)
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Post by: joger on Monday 11 February 19 16:39 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Monday 11 February 19 19:39 GMT (UK)
Just in case your GG Chevreau was the husband of Hendrika SCHOOF , here is his death act  (21 august 1930 Paris 8th arrondissement) and by the way his date and place of birth in France .
This could explain why his death cannot be found in England.

I just received the marriage certificate today and I can confirm that it was my great grandfather George Chevreau who married Hendrika Schoof!

When I came back to this page I wasn't prepared to find all of this Joger. I'm amazed and can't thank you enough! I'm going to print it off and take it all in. I'm so happy. Thank you!!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Monday 11 February 19 19:44 GMT (UK)
You ´re welcome  :)
It's not finished.
Do you need translations?
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Monday 11 February 19 20:09 GMT (UK)
You ´re welcome  :)
It's not finished.
Do you need translations?

I know a little French but not much. Was going to put some of it into Google translate. Do you speak French?
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Tuesday 12 February 19 07:13 GMT (UK)
I will translate,I´m french.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Tuesday 12 February 19 08:06 GMT (UK)
Iwill translate,I´m french.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Tuesday 12 February 19 12:49 GMT (UK)
Death GG Chevrot :
21 august 1930, 20 to 6  AM, in his home 29 rue de Surène, died Georges Gustave CHEVROT, born in VERNEUIL ( Eure) 1 sept 1870, janitor, son of the late Léon François CHEVROT and the late Stélie Louise MASSOT , married ( parents were married), widower of Hendricka Theodora SCHOOF.
etc... on the declaration of  Emile CAPRON,53 years'old,  living 3 rue de Lisbonne

NB : Emile Capron could be a friend , a neighbour ...
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Tuesday 12 February 19 13:19 GMT (UK)
Marriage CHEVREAUX/MASSOT

1860 9 september Saint Martin d'Aspres.
CHEVREAUX François Léon , miller, living in Saint Martin d'Aspres , born in Le Plantis 1829 11 april, son of Jean François Marin CHEVREAUX, who died  in Le Plantis 9 april 1854 and  Marie Renée Claudine RADIGON living in Le Plantis present here and consent to the marriage.....
and MASSOT Louise Adélaïde Stélie,glove maker,living in St Martin d'Aspres where she was born  4 february 1849, daughter of Jacques Louis MASSOT, 'fendeur de bois = wood splitter) and Louise Adélaïde DESPORTES living together in St Martin d'Aspres , both present here and consenting to the marriage.

Witnesses : Frédéric JAMET father , Frédéric JAMET son,apprentice miller friend of the groom,Simon DESPORTES, grand father of the bride and Gustave BARON brother in law of the groom.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: josey on Tuesday 12 February 19 15:17 GMT (UK)
This is marvellous - details of 2 generations back from Georges!!
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Tuesday 12 February 19 17:15 GMT (UK)
Military fiche1
GG Cherot born Verneuil 1 sept 1870, Eure,living in St Martin d'Aspres, Orne, business employee, son of the late Léon François and Stélie Louise Massot living in : UNKNOWN canton : Moulins la Marche , Orne,
nb 16 of the draw in  Moulins la Marche canton.

Right  of the image: regimental  number of the recruitement  878
Class of enrollment :year 1888

Physical description : Hair : ?
Brows : brown, nose :large :mouth : average size,chin : round, face :oval
Height 1 m 64 cm
Educational level :3 (could read , write , count)

Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Wednesday 13 February 19 14:16 GMT (UK)
Birth of François Léon CHEVRAUX 11 april 1829 7 AM in Le Plantis (Orne), son of Jean François Marin CHEVRAUX, 31, farmer,and Marie Renée Claudine RADIGOIS , his wife .

The father could not sign.(I'll have to discover wether it was Radigois or Radigon)
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Wednesday 13 February 19 14:17 GMT (UK)
to be continued
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Thursday 14 February 19 12:32 GMT (UK)
Marriage CHEVREAUX/MASSOT

1860 9 september Saint Martin d'Aspres.
CHEVREAUX François Léon , miller, living in Saint Martin d'Aspres , born in Le Plantis 1829 11 april, son of Jean François Marin CHEVREAUX, who died  in Le Plantis 9 april 1854 and  Marie Renée Claudine RADIGON living in Le Plantis present here and consent to the marriage.....
and MASSOT Louise Adélaïde Stélie,glove maker,living in St Martin d'Aspres where she was born  4 february 1849, daughter of Jacques Louis MASSOT, 'fendeur de bois = wood splitter) and Louise Adélaïde DESPORTES living together in St Martin d'Aspres , both present here and consenting to the marriage.

Witnesses : Frédéric JAMET father , Frédéric JAMET son,apprentice miller friend of the groom,Simon DESPORTES, grand father of the bride and Gustave BARON brother in law of the groom.
Louise Adelaide Stelie born in fact 4 feb 1841 ,4 PM in St Martin d'Aspres to Jacques  Louis Massot , wood splitter, approximately 35, and Louise Adelaide Desportes , in their house in the village Les Bourdinières.


ADDED: mistake on the middle name of the mother . She was born Louise Euphrasie (written ufrasie), ot Adélaïde.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Thursday 14 February 19 12:42 GMT (UK)
here
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: valeriet on Thursday 14 February 19 23:16 GMT (UK)
Thanks Joger, I've been a bit under par but will be gathering all of this information together. So amazed at what you've found :)
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Friday 15 February 19 07:03 GMT (UK)
Military fiche 2,3,4 :
Enrolled as a volonter on the 21 october 1889 at the town hall of Alençon (12 d Regiment of Hussars)
Was sentenced to on the 26 oct 1891 (4 months in military prison) (tried to pledge a small equipment that had been given to him for military service).
26 feb 1892: 2d Regiment of Chasseurs after having been sentenced (17 janurary 1892, how long ? ).
Missing on the call 13 june 1892, was declared deserter on the 19 june 1892.
Disobeyed the call for general mobilization in 1914. Presented himself volontarily (31 january 1917) to the Consul General of France in London who aknowledged his submission.
Landed in Le Havre 1 feb 1917, arrived in the Regiment of Chasseurs 3d feb 1917.
Was sentenced to 1 year of prison (suspended sentence) for desertion during peace time.
14 april 1918 : freed from call to be able to go to England. Freed from military service 10 dec 1918
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Friday 15 February 19 09:51 GMT (UK)
Marriage CHEVREAUX/MASSOT

1860 9 september Saint Martin d'Aspres.
CHEVREAUX François Léon , miller, living in Saint Martin d'Aspres , born in Le Plantis 1829 11 april, son of Jean François Marin CHEVREAUX, who died  in Le Plantis 9 april 1854 and  Marie Renée Claudine RADIGON living in Le Plantis present here and consent to the marriage.....
and MASSOT Louise Adélaïde Stélie,glove maker,living in St Martin d'Aspres where she was born  4 february 1849, daughter of Jacques Louis MASSOT, 'fendeur de bois = wood splitter) and Louise Adélaïde DESPORTES living together in St Martin d'Aspres , both present here and consenting to the marriage.

Witnesses : Frédéric JAMET father , Frédéric JAMET son,apprentice miller friend of the groom,Simon DESPORTES, grand father of the bride and Gustave BARON brother in law of the groom.
Louise Adelaide Stelie born in fact 4 feb 1841 ,4 PM in St Martin d'Aspres to Jacques  Louis Massot , wood splitter, approximately 35, and Louise Adelaide Desportes , in their house in the village Les Bourdinières.


ADDED: mistake on the middle name of the mother . She was born Louise Euphrasie (written ufrasie), not Adélaïde.
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Friday 15 February 19 10:01 GMT (UK)
François Léon CHEVREAUX/CHEVROT married 1860 St Martin d'Aspres  Louise Adélaïde StélieMASSOT             
miller                                                                                     born 1841 St martin d'Aspres
born 1829 le Plantis , Orne                                                      died?
Died  9 feb 1871 Verneuil                                                   
                                                       CHILDREN:

Georges Gustave CHEVROT   Léon Victor Elphege CHEVREAUX             Louise AdélaÏde CHEVREAUX
born 1870 Verneuil, Orne             born 1861 St Martin d'Aspres             born 1863 St M d'Aspres
died 1930 Paris                                                                                    died St Martin d'Aspres 1863
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Friday 15 February 19 10:21 GMT (UK)
here
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 17 February 19 13:17 GMT (UK)
Jean François Marin CHEVREAUX married (27 june 1820 in Le Plantis)Marie Renée Claudine RADIGOIS, he was born 22 Brumaire an 7 (12 nov 1798) Le Plantis, she was born 2 Messidor an 7 (20 june 1799)St Scolasse
he died 9 april 1854 in Le Plantis , Orne 
                                                              CHILDREN
François Léon CHEVREAUX                                               
born 1829 Le Plantis , Orne
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 17 February 19 13:24 GMT (UK)
here
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 17 February 19 13:26 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 17 February 19 13:27 GMT (UK)
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27 june 1820 Le Plantis , orne

Marriage of Jean François Marin CHEVREAU, farmer,21 years’old 7 months 15 days born 22 brumaire an 7 in le Plantis, living in le Plantis,son of François CHEVREAU, farmer,and Marie LEPRIEUR , father present , father and mother consenting to the marriage, and Marie Renée Claudine RADIGOIS 21 years’old 7 days living in le Plantis  born in St Scolasse 2 Messidor an 7 , daughter of the late René RADIGOIS who died in St Scolasse 16 Frimaire an 13 and of the late Marie … (I must decipher that) who died 4 may 1808 in St Scolasse.

Witnesses : Charles françois JOIGNAUX cousin of the groom,jean françois BESNARD cousin of the groom, Jacques RADIGOIS brother of the bride , Jean ? son of a cousin of the bride.

Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 17 February 19 13:48 GMT (UK)
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1854 , 9 april Jean François Marin Chevreau born  in Le Plantis farmer, husband of Marie Renée Claudine RADIGOIS) died in his house in the hamlet of Bellanger at 11 AM, son of the late François Cheveau (who died in Macé) and the late Marie LEPRIEUR (who died in Le Plantis).
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 17 February 19 13:48 GMT (UK)
here
Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 17 February 19 17:09 GMT (UK)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bellanger,+61170+Le+Plantis/@48.6015092,0.3848067,3a,75y,161.55h,90t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1srMBe6TKzXODz4M9KWZtx-g!2e0!3e11!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fmaps%2Fphotothumb%2Ffd%2Fv1%3Fbpb%3DChEKD21hcHNfc3YudGFjdGlsZRIgChIJ10bLDqsj4kcRSRzqpbGW0B4qCg0AAAAAFQAAAAAaBQhkEMsB%26gl%3DFR!7i13312!8i6656!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x47e223ab0ecb46d7:0x1ed096b1a5ea1c49!2sBellanger,+61170+Le+Plantis!3b1!8m2!3d48.601528!4d0.3848964!3m4!1s0x47e223ab0ecb46d7:0x1ed096b1a5ea1c49!8m2!3d48.601528!4d0.3848964

Bellanger
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Post by: joger on Sunday 17 February 19 17:17 GMT (UK)
A is Macé B is Le Plantis
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Post by: joger on Sunday 17 February 19 17:57 GMT (UK)
Birth of Jean François Marin CHEVREAU

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Post by: joger on Sunday 17 February 19 17:58 GMT (UK)
part2

23 brumaire an 7 ( 13 nov 1798), 11 PM birth of Jean François marin Chevreau , son of François Chevreau and Marie Prieur his wife,

Marie PRIEUR , mother of JFM CHEVREAU (will be called LEPRIEUR later)
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Post by: joger on Monday 18 February 19 08:15 GMT (UK)
Marriage Chevreau Prieur1
20 pluviose an 6  (8 feb 1798) at 3 PM François Chevreau , farmer ,27 ,son of François Chevreau and Jeanne CHASSERAY from the town of DAMNE , (? must find it) Sarthe  and living in the town of St Scolasse since …and Marie PRIEUR (widow of Jacques BAUDOIRE ), 30,from the town of Le Plantis.
Witnesses Jean BESNARD, Claude SERRAY ?, Jacques MARTIN, Jacques LAVIGNE

DAMNE does not exist  , it is AMNE . Commune de Damne = commune d'Amne

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Post by: joger on Monday 18 February 19 08:16 GMT (UK)
Marriage chevreau Prieur2
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Post by: joger on Monday 18 February 19 09:46 GMT (UK)
From now on I make trees:
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Post by: joger on Monday 18 February 19 15:27 GMT (UK)
Marriage Chevereau Chasseray:
23 january 1770 François Chevereau , bachelor,
son of Marin Chevereau and Renée Minet from the parish of Coulans,
and Jeanne Chasseray , widow of Pierre ALLAIN , daughter of Jean Chasseray and Jullienne Huet

Witnesses of the groom : father and mother, his brother Marin Chevereau ,and his sister,

W of the  bride :her brother in law François ?, Jeanne Allain (her daughter), Jacques Joyau? and several other relatives.
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Post by: joger on Monday 18 February 19 15:38 GMT (UK)
To be continued
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Post by: joger on Monday 18 February 19 16:00 GMT (UK)
Marriage Chevereau Minet
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Post by: joger on Monday 18 February 19 16:01 GMT (UK)
part2
30 january 1742 marriage marin Chevereau …..31, son of marin chevereau and louise PAUGET ( ?), and Renée Minée , 23,daughter of the late louis Minée and Jeanne HUBERT, from the parish of La Quinte,.
Witnesses :Marin chevereau (father) René DELIOU or Delion ,brother in law. Bride : jeanne Hubert, widow of Louis Minée,(her mother), louis minée,mathurin Minée(her brothers)all from the parish of La Quinte

Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 February 19 11:04 GMT (UK)
part2

23 brumaire an 7 ( 13 nov 1798), 11 PM birth of Jean François marin Chevreau , son of François Chevreau and Marie Prieur his wife,

Marie PRIEUR , mother of JFM CHEVREAU (will be called LEPRIEUR later)
in the hamlet Bellanger (Bellenger)
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 February 19 11:17 GMT (UK)
Birth and baptism François Chevereau 1742
11 July 1742 in Coulans sur Gée , Sarthe. Father Marin Chevereau, mother renée minée . Godfather François Dalibard, godmother Françoise Lomeau wife of Jean Gareau
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 February 19 11:34 GMT (UK)
Death of François Chevereau,76, widower of Jeanne Chasseray 2 october 1811 in Amné , registered by his son Louis and rené gendrot , a neighbour; he died in a stable belonging to Mrs Fouré (widow) at Le Plessis .
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 February 19 11:34 GMT (UK)
part2
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Post by: valeriet on Wednesday 20 February 19 18:15 GMT (UK)
Oh my, you've discovered so much...I'm blown away. I'm going to spend this evening taking notes as there's so much to take in. Thank you so much!
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 20 February 19 20:28 GMT (UK)
Not finished!
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Post by: valeriet on Wednesday 20 February 19 20:30 GMT (UK)
Not finished!

Wow!! So happy  ;D ;D
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Post by: joger on Thursday 21 February 19 15:41 GMT (UK)
Baptism of Marin CHEVEREAU  9 sept 1712 in Chevillé , Sarthe , son of Marin and Louise GRANGER, godfather Georges E...er, godmother Magdeleine E...er
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Post by: joger on Thursday 21 February 19 16:00 GMT (UK)
Marriage Marin Chevereau and Louise GRANGER
5 nov 1711 Chevillé, Sarthe
Groom : son of the late Jacque and the late Marie Dayré, his wife, assisted by Charles Couti(or e)lle and Joseph L..., Hylaire Dubin and françois Collet, Catherine Lyger, all good friends of the groom and many others
Bride :from the parish of St Ouen,daughter of the late Marin Granger and Magdeleine Creullier(?) assisted by Magdeleine Creulier , her mother and George granger , her brother, and Pierre Granger, another brother, and leonard Allain,her brother in law, Magdeleine and Jullienne Granger , her sisters.

None of them could sign.
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Post by: joger on Thursday 21 February 19 16:09 GMT (UK)
Death of :Marin Chevereau 4 january 1764, in Chevillé about 83 years'old was interred in the presence of  René DELION the husband of a daughter
 
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Post by: joger on Friday 22 February 19 07:02 GMT (UK)
Baptism Marin Chevereau 1682, Lavaré , Sarthe
5 january 1682 in Lavaré was baptized Marin Chevereau son of Jacques and Marie Derré (wife), godfather was marin PINEAU , godmother Marie Brioy, present Mathurin Berger and Jacques Dogrer
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Post by: joger on Friday 22 February 19 07:12 GMT (UK)
In Lavaré 26 february 1682 Jacques Chevereau and marie Derré were married , parents and witnesses 's names not mentionned
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Post by: joger on Friday 22 February 19 07:57 GMT (UK)
death Marin Chevereau (born 1712) 30 june 1794 Saint Christophe en Champagne
Certificate written 1 july 1794
His daughter Renée , 37,registered his death.
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Post by: joger on Friday 22 February 19 08:01 GMT (UK)
Now a new tree( not finished)
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Post by: joger on Friday 22 February 19 17:57 GMT (UK)
Baptism louise GRANGER 10 nov 1683 Chevillé , daughter of Marin GRANGER and Magdeleine CREULIER godfather ?? godmother Louise Morau ( or Moran) from Chevillé
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Post by: joger on Friday 22 February 19 17:58 GMT (UK)
death Louise GRANGER 28 april 1743 interred in presence of her husband , was 60.
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Post by: joger on Saturday 23 February 19 14:34 GMT (UK)
marriage Granger Croulier  in Chevillé 26 jan 1677 Marin Granger , merchant ,26 or so,son the late Georges Granger and of the late Marie COSSET , assisted by his brother Julien, a plowman, Pierre LOYANT , a carpenter, and his wife Jeanne COURANT, cousins, and Pierre LE TOURNEUX, also a cousin, married Magdeleine CROULIER , 15 or 16, daughter of the late Louis CROULIER and Magdelaine RETOIT, assisted by ... RETOIT, Michel RETOIT her uncle,from TH...?...RETOIT her cousin,plowmen,all living in this parish,.....
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Post by: joger on Sunday 24 February 19 08:47 GMT (UK)
Baptism Elisabeth Renée Miné 1717, godfather Thomas Cointereau , "procureur sindic "( something like the mayor of the village in thoses days) , godmother Renée le Joiant
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Post by: joger on Sunday 24 February 19 08:53 GMT (UK)
marriage Miné Hubert 1707 LA QUINTE
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Post by: joger on Sunday 24 February 19 11:02 GMT (UK)
birth Jeanne HUBERT 18 january 1676 Coulans daughter of Michel Hubert and Louise Fourneau ,god father Michel CHENON, godmother Jeanne Fourneau

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Post by: joger on Sunday 24 February 19 13:51 GMT (UK)
birth Louis Minée 1678, Bouchemaine , Maine et Loire
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Post by: joger on Monday 25 February 19 08:49 GMT (UK)
death Jeanne CHASSERAY 2 sept 1807 Amné
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Post by: joger on Monday 25 February 19 09:04 GMT (UK)
tree
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 26 February 19 12:58 GMT (UK)
marriage Chasseray Huet Domfront
13 january 1722 Jean Chasseray and Julienne huet , assisted by his son Jean Chasseray , Simon lerouge ( brother in law because of his late wife), his nephew Julien Tricot, julien Cornu, jean Montaron,Michel lebras, Marie  and Jeanne Huet , sisters of the bride (can't sign)
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 26 February 19 13:05 GMT (UK)
death of jean Chasseray
30 august 1741 Domfront, 66 or so , "bordager"  = metayer was interred in the presence of his wife Jullienne Huet, his son Jullien Chasseray,his daughter marueritte Huet ,"his uncle in law" Julien Huet senior , Simon lerouge, his brother in law ,and other parents and friends.

My commen t: seems to have been much loved and appreciated. (many people came to the ceeremony
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 27 February 19 07:22 GMT (UK)
death of julienne Huet , 3 may 1758 Domfort : widow of jean chasseray was interred in the presence of marie Huet (sister), jean louis and jacques chasseray ( chilidren) and several other parents and friends.
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 27 February 19 07:29 GMT (UK)
birth jullienne huet 18 nov 1700 Conlie, sarthe
to jean huet and jullienne dangeard , godfather julien dangeard, godmother françoise huet
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 27 February 19 07:42 GMT (UK)
marriage het dangeard 1700 Conlie, Sarthe
12 january 1700 jean huet son of jean huet and françois BESNARD and julienne dangeard daughter of the late julien dangeard and Julienne GARNIER
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 27 February 19 07:51 GMT (UK)
arbre
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Post by: joger on Thursday 28 February 19 18:18 GMT (UK)
I am not sure about Jean Chasseray's parents , waiting for answers.
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Post by: joger on Friday 01 March 19 07:10 GMT (UK)
baptism of Francois Chevereau  23 july 1771 Amné , Sarthe
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Post by: joger on Friday 01 March 19 07:27 GMT (UK)
death Marie Anne Barbe PRIEUR 1847 le Plantis ,Orne
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Post by: joger on Friday 01 March 19 07:28 GMT (UK)
part 2, died in the hamlet of Bellanger
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Post by: joger on Friday 01 March 19 08:21 GMT (UK)
baptism Marie Anne Barbe LE PRIEUR Friday 14 december 1764 Le Plantis, Orne ,to Michel leprieur and Anne LEMESLE, godfather  her uncle jacques LEMESLE from the parish of St Agnan sur sarthe , godmother her cousin Marie Lemesle

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Post by: joger on Friday 01 March 19 16:09 GMT (UK)
Marriage prieur lemesle, in le Plantis,Orne
on tuesday 3d nov 1761 Michel Prieur , son of the late Jacques and the late Louise FRIQUET, from this parish, married Anne LEMESLE , daughter of the late Jacques and the late Magdelaine FERDOUET from the parish of St Agnan sur Sarthe, living in this town since some years in the presence of their relatives and friends  : louis EROULT, brother in law of the groom, Emmanuel and Pierre Le prieur ,cousins of the groom,Jacques Friquet , his uncle,Marie Le fleuriet , his aunt ,Louis friquet , his cousin,Jacques Puget and René friquet , his cousins(both signed),Jacques and Alexandre LEmesle , brothers of the bride , Alexandre lemesle , uncle and tutor of the bride, marguerite fauvet , her aunt,Alexandre Duchene , her great-uncle,Marie lemesle , her cousin,Michel Boulaye , her cousin.
Part2
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Post by: joger on Friday 01 March 19 16:22 GMT (UK)
part 1
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Post by: joger on Friday 01 March 19 16:31 GMT (UK)
Marriage Prieur Friquet 25 may 1724, le Plantis, Orne, jacques prieur son of the late Emmanuel Prieur and Barbe EVERAR married Louise FRIQUET daughter of Claude and the late Renée VAILLANT in the presence of relatives and friends , Louis galet , jacques Chastet, witnesses;Bride and groom wrote their mark.

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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 07:54 GMT (UK)
Death Anne LEMESLE 17 oct 1792 le Plantis , around 60 years' old , widow of Michel Prieur
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 07:57 GMT (UK)
death michel prieur  29 dec 1783 Le Plantis , about 45 years'old
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:02 GMT (UK)
Birth Michel Leprieur 4 january , Le plantis 1738 to jacques leprieur and louise friquet
you  have the signature of the father jacques leprieur .
So now we know that the name was LEPRIEUR , only the curate , vicar or priest wrote PRIEUR
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:04 GMT (UK)
Death jacques leprieur 18 april 1741, le Plantis
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:06 GMT (UK)
Death Louise friquet , 5 june 1746 widow of the late  jacques leprieur
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:08 GMT (UK)
death barbe Everard 24 dec 1738 le Plantis ,widow of Emmannuel Leprieur
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:10 GMT (UK)
birth louise friquet 24 january 1698 le plantis
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:11 GMT (UK)
Birth Claude friquet 25 feb 1668 le Plantis
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:13 GMT (UK)
Marriage friquet Voelin, 26 june 1691 Le Plantis
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:14 GMT (UK)
death jean friquet 17 april 1709 Le Plantis , was interred in the church.
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:19 GMT (UK)
Death Louise Delavigne 27 juin 1707 Le plantis, interred in the church
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:20 GMT (UK)
Marriage friquet delavigne 9 nov 1666 le Plantis
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:24 GMT (UK)
Marriage friquet delavigne 9 nov 1666 le Plantis
jean friquet son of Phiilippe and Françoise Goren,and Louise delavigne daughter of Claude and madeline HUREL
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:27 GMT (UK)
tree, forgot jacques leprieur's death , wait for next version.
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Post by: joger on Saturday 02 March 19 15:51 GMT (UK)
http://leplantis61.over-blog.fr/album-2075143.html
photos inside the church
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Post by: joger on Sunday 03 March 19 07:34 GMT (UK)
marriage prieur everard 3d march 1696 Le Plantis
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Post by: joger on Sunday 03 March 19 07:35 GMT (UK)
marriage prieur everard part2
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Post by: joger on Sunday 03 March 19 07:44 GMT (UK)
death emmanuel leprieur 21 may 1705 Le Plantis interred in the church
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Post by: joger on Sunday 03 March 19 07:52 GMT (UK)
death barbe everard 24 dec 1738 le plantis , widow of emmanuel le prieur
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Post by: joger on Sunday 03 March 19 08:01 GMT (UK)
marriage leprieur dupont 22 juy 1660 ST AGNAN, Orne
priest : emmanuel dupont , the bride's brother
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Post by: joger on Sunday 03 March 19 08:04 GMT (UK)
tree
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Post by: joger on Monday 04 March 19 09:47 GMT (UK)
Birth anne lemesle 29 jan uary 174  St Agnan sur sarthe , orne , to jacques lemesle and magdelaine ferdouet, godfather denis lemesle , godmother Gratienne Saget



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Post by: valeriet on Monday 04 March 19 19:39 GMT (UK)
Joger, I have been unwell, but coming back to see all of this is incredible...documents back to 1660! My goodness. I can't believe a little while ago I had no idea about any of the history of my ancestors in France. This is amazing what you have done!  :o 8)
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Post by: joger on Monday 04 March 19 19:59 GMT (UK)
Hope that you feel better now and that was not too serious.
I ´ll go as far back as the registers can lead us to. The most difficult was to find george gustave !
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 05 March 19 13:43 GMT (UK)
Marriage lemelse ferdouet, 5 feb 1732 in Fallandres (nowadays 2019 Mahéru; Orne) Jacques LEMELE son of Alexandre  memele and jacqueline Duchesne, of this parish , and madeleine FARDOUET daughter of Rhené Fardouet and Anne BOULAYE from the parish of St Agnan.
Parents and friends :
Alexandre le meme and jacqueline duchesne (father nd mother of the groom), Alexandre lemele , brother of the groom,René Fardouet and Anne Boulaye , father and mother of the bride ,Alexandre duchesne , uncle of the groom, jacques lemele  another  uncle, Jacques Fardouet uncle of the bride,Michel and françois Boukaye , also uncles, Alexandre Maigne of this parish, René baset, Pierre Bureau from the parish of St Agnan, witnesses who signed with us /

Then you have the signatures
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 05 March 19 13:44 GMT (UK)
lesmele fardouet

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Post by: joger on Tuesday 05 March 19 13:47 GMT (UK)
father and brother lemesle
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 05 March 19 13:49 GMT (UK)
mark of duchesne

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Post by: joger on Tuesday 05 March 19 13:49 GMT (UK)
the marks of fardouet and boulaye
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 05 March 19 13:51 GMT (UK)
marriage lemesle duchesne
21 nov 1705, st Agnan sur sarthe
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 05 March 19 13:53 GMT (UK)
birth alexandre duchesne 19 nov 1685, St Agnan
Godfather alexandre de la haye ,esquire , sieur de la barre= living in la barre ( should be a hamlet nearby)
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 05 March 19 13:58 GMT (UK)
birth jacques lemesle 23 aug 1707 st Agnan
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 05 March 19 14:54 GMT (UK)
birth Madeleine FARDOUET (or ferdouet) 28 fev 1718
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 05 March 19 14:55 GMT (UK)
death madeleine Fardouet 27 dec 1741 St Agnan , 24 or so
Death of her father René 2 days later 29 dec 1741 St Agnan 55 or so
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 06 March 19 07:47 GMT (UK)
Birth rené fardouet 14 jan 1687 st Agnan sur sarthe to jacques and barbe morand
gofather philippe chauvin, godmother martine chauvin
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 06 March 19 07:51 GMT (UK)
marriage  fardouet  morand 21 june 181 St Agnan sur sarthe in the presence of jacques fardouet , uncle,philippe le febvre and philippe fardouet , brothers of the groom,jean gouyer, françois morand (brother of the bride), manuel quéru and alexandre bouilie
NB the surname is written Fardoit in the margin
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Post by: joger on Thursday 07 March 19 07:41 GMT (UK)
birth alexandre duchesne 19 nov 1685, St Agnan
Godfather alexandre de la haye ,esquire , sieur de la barre= living in la barre ( should be a hamlet nearby)

Sorry : birth alexandre LEMESLE
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Post by: joger on Thursday 07 March 19 07:52 GMT (UK)
marriage fardouet boulaye 6 feb 1712 in Tellieres René fardouet from the parish of st Aignan, son of the late jacques fardouet and barbe morand and anne boulaye from this parish (Tellieres)daughter of the late michel and anne morand. Witnesses : pierre fardouet, barbe morand,gratienne renard,françois boullaye,françoise morand and other parents .
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Post by: joger on Thursday 07 March 19 11:14 GMT (UK)
marriage jacques lemesle , son of Ambrois lemesle and Marie BOISVIN,and marie briant , daughter of Pierre Briand and  barbe RUEL ,17 june 1684 St agnan , in the presence of Ambrois le mesle and master Louis de st Aignan priest and curate of Auquaire, Alexandre de la haye , esquire , sieur de la Barre, barbe Ruel  , mother of the bride and pierre and Charles briant , brothers of the bride.
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Post by: joger on Thursday 07 March 19 11:31 GMT (UK)
death ambroise lemesle 11 nov 1705 St Agnon , as a good catholic
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Post by: joger on Thursday 07 March 19 11:32 GMT (UK)
death marie Boisvin , widow of Ambroise lemesle 2 feb 1708 St Agnan, as a good catholic
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Post by: joger on Thursday 07 March 19 11:38 GMT (UK)
tree
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Post by: joger on Friday 08 March 19 08:15 GMT (UK)
death anne boulaye 24 sept 1739 st agnan , 60 years old or so
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Post by: joger on Saturday 09 March 19 07:06 GMT (UK)
... till now , I haven't find where Jacqueline Duchesne or her parents came from
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Post by: joger on Saturday 09 March 19 07:48 GMT (UK)
Birth Marie Renée Claudine RADIGOIS 2 messidor an 7 (20 june 1799) , at 2 AM,in Ste Scolasse sur Sarthe
to René Radigois , farmer , 42 years old and Marie HUREL, living in the village of Les Champeaux (I think nowadays Champeaux sur Sarthe)
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Post by: joger on Saturday 09 March 19 07:49 GMT (UK)
part 2
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Post by: joger on Saturday 09 March 19 07:50 GMT (UK)
map
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Post by: joger on Sunday 10 March 19 08:01 GMT (UK)
24 jan 1786 ste scolasse marriage rené-pierre radigois son of michel radigois and elisabeth champeaux and marie louise hurel daughter of the lale louis hurel and the late marie bourdin, in the presence and with consent of michel radigois , father and françois eustache perrey , tutor of the bride
and friends and relatives and witnesses.
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Post by: joger on Sunday 10 March 19 08:03 GMT (UK)
birth rené pierre radigois 28 jan 1757 ste scolasse
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Post by: joger on Sunday 10 March 19 08:05 GMT (UK)
birth marie louise elisabeth hurel 18 nov 1763 ste scolasse
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Post by: joger on Sunday 10 March 19 08:15 GMT (UK)
1 may 1755 marriage of michel radigois , son of the late michel radigois and the late anne CHORAN from this parish, and elisabeth CHAMPEAUX daughter of the late René Champeaux and Elisabeth Peuré from the parish of BURES
Witnesses : Louis Bossard , Marin Radigois , Pierre Havard, cousins, Elisabeth Peuré, madeleine champeaux sister and pierre legros, emmanuel gauthier, rené noyer.

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Post by: joger on Sunday 10 March 19 08:18 GMT (UK)

9 nov 1762  in Ste -Scolasse.

Marriage Louis HUREL  son of the late Marin Hurel and the late Suzanne GAUTRY ?(GENTRY ?) from the parish of St Germain le Vieux and having been living in Ste Scolasse for 10 years and Marie BOU(R)DIN ,daughter of Marin Bou(r)din and Marie LORIDE from this parish.
Witnesses :Charles Hurel , Jean, françois, marin Hurel brothers, Marin Boudin and Marie Loride  fathe and mother of the bride, emmanuel moulin,elisabeth boudin , sister,jacques and claude loride , uncles, robert coulboeuf , cousin, georges lambert,cousin, François Bourdin and jacques Bourlot and ..muliet (mullier in the signatures)


Title: Re: Can't find my French ancestors in France (Chevreau)
Post by: joger on Sunday 10 March 19 08:19 GMT (UK)
part2
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Post by: joger on Sunday 10 March 19 08:21 GMT (UK)
death elisabeth perrey 10 jan 1767 , 69 years' old or so ,widow of rené champeaux
ste scolasse
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Post by: joger on Sunday 10 March 19 08:26 GMT (UK)
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Post by: joger on Monday 11 March 19 08:43 GMT (UK)
birth louis HUREL 11 feb 1736 , in St Germain le Vieux, Orne , to Marin Hurel and Suzanne GAUTRY, godfather philippe hurel from the parish if ? , godmother louise odolans from the parish of Mont Chevel?

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Post by: joger on Monday 11 March 19 08:52 GMT (UK)
marriage marin hurel  son of jean hurel and anne DUVAL from the parish of st germain le vieux and suzanne  GAUTRY daughter of Charles gautry and Thomasse PISSOT from the parish of SURDON
witnesses pierre hurel and pierre hurel , brothers, françois robine, pierre dugay, charles gautry, thomasse?, françois gautry brother , michel gauthier cousin, jacques pissot, françois robelle
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Post by: joger on Monday 11 March 19 08:53 GMT (UK)
part2
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Post by: joger on Monday 11 March 19 09:27 GMT (UK)
marriage Charles gautry , son of Clément gautry and Jeanne MAIGNAN and thomasse pissot daughter of françois jacques PISSOT and Suzanne BEAULANON or BEAULAVON (must sort this out) 31 may 1698 in Surdon, Orne .
Should be BeaulaVon.
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Post by: joger on Monday 11 March 19 11:18 GMT (UK)
death jeanne Maignan wife of Clément Gautry 27 jan 1695 in Surdon
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Post by: joger on Monday 11 March 19 11:28 GMT (UK)
death clement gautry 29 sept 1713 i Surdon, orne
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Post by: joger on Monday 11 March 19 11:33 GMT (UK)
birth suzanne Gautry 16 mars 1699 in Surdon
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Post by: joger on Monday 11 March 19 11:39 GMT (UK)
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 13 March 19 11:32 GMT (UK)
marriage contract Charles gautry/Thomasse Pissot 1698
translation will follow
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Post by: joger on Thursday 14 March 19 07:34 GMT (UK)
I rather think that les Champeaux is this village
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Post by: joger on Friday 15 March 19 06:55 GMT (UK)
Translation of the contract :
Sunday 11 th of may 1698 , in Mortrée, in the office of the sollicitor (), Charles Gautry, son of Clément Gautry and the late Jeanne Maignen , and Thomasse Pissot , daughter of the late jacques Pissot and the late  Suzanne Beaulavon, all living in Surdon, have the project of marrying and make a marriage contract :
René Pissot , brother of Thomasse , living in Macey promissed to give them within 2 years after the wedding   60 « livres » (120 euros) and 30 « aunes « (approximately 30* 118 cm) of hessian
And François Beaulavon , uncle of Thomasse , living in Surdon,promissed to pay and give to the future groom and bride , to thank her for her friendship and for the favours  she did to him, 60 » livres  »(approximately 120 euros) within 2 years, and a cow.

Witnesses :Estienne de la Haye from the parish of the castle of Almenesche and jean Chardon from the parish of Surdon.
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Post by: joger on Saturday 16 March 19 08:31 GMT (UK)
marriage champeaux peurey 26 jan 1719 in Bures, Orne

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Post by: joger on Saturday 16 March 19 08:36 GMT (UK)
marriage champeaux vallet 11 august 1696 Bures
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Post by: joger on Saturday 16 March 19 08:45 GMT (UK)
birth rené champeaux 10 sept 1670 in Bures
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Post by: joger on Saturday 16 March 19 08:46 GMT (UK)
birth madeleine vallet 1670 in Bures

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Post by: joger on Saturday 16 March 19 09:08 GMT (UK)
marriage rené champeaux renée vallet 1663 in Bures
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Post by: joger on Saturday 16 March 19 09:16 GMT (UK)
death rené champeaux le jeune (junior) 12 january 1714 in Bures, interred in the church
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Post by: joger on Saturday 16 March 19 09:18 GMT (UK)
death rené champeaux (senior) 13 december 1713 in Bures , interred in the churchyard

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Post by: joger on Saturday 16 March 19 09:25 GMT (UK)
birth rené champeaux to estienne (champeaux) and louise Jardin 2 june 1636 in Bures
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Post by: joger on Saturday 16 March 19 09:35 GMT (UK)
birth Renée Vallet on Holy Monday 9 april 1640 in Bures
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Post by: joger on Saturday 16 March 19 09:47 GMT (UK)
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Post by: KitCarson on Saturday 16 March 19 13:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Joger, I've been watching with awe!  What a lot of work you have undertaken and all those transcriptions.  I look forward to watching this thread further.

I'm sure Valeriet will appreciate it all!

Kit
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Post by: josey on Saturday 16 March 19 13:44 GMT (UK)
Yes, I too have been following this thread with admiration. Well done jroger. Valeriet hasn't been online since 4 Mar but she will surely be amazed & very grateful!!
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Post by: joger on Saturday 16 March 19 17:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks ladies and /or gentlemen, but it is not very difficult . Still , I had to make trees in order to avoid losing the train of Valeriet 's ancestors (so many of them!) . When I started I did not think I would find so many people!
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Post by: joger on Saturday 16 March 19 18:23 GMT (UK)
death magdelaine vallet 16 feb 1742 in Ste -Scolasse
error on the last tree , I wrote 1741)
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Post by: joger on Sunday 17 March 19 07:23 GMT (UK)
birth emmanuel vallet 13 jan 1647 in Bures
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Post by: joger on Sunday 17 March 19 07:31 GMT (UK)
marriage emmanuel vallet and elisabeth chouard 4 aug 1668 in Bures
witnesses  Robert Amelinot , Sebasien Vallet , Marin Blavette, Michel Poussé and others
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Post by: joger on Sunday 17 March 19 07:42 GMT (UK)
death suzanne bodot , widow of pierre vallet ,3 january 1676 in Bures , in the presence of marin and Emmanuel , her two sons
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Post by: joger on Sunday 17 March 19 07:55 GMT (UK)
birth elisabeth chouard to claude chouard and françoise champeaux ?? 1648 (preceding and following births are 5 april and 12 september), in Bures, godfather Isaac la Vie ,sieur de la Bigotière (which means living in la Bigotière ) and godmother Michelle Odolant
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Post by: joger on Sunday 17 March 19 08:05 GMT (UK)
death elisabeth chouard , spouse of emmanuel vallet , died 15 april 1709 , in Bures, was interred in the church
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Post by: joger on Sunday 17 March 19 08:09 GMT (UK)
marriage : claude chouard married françoise champeaux on the 27 th of september (audit an = the said year , written before)
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Post by: joger on Sunday 17 March 19 08:13 GMT (UK)
death claude chouard 28 may 1664 in Bures
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Post by: joger on Sunday 17 March 19 08:16 GMT (UK)
death françoise champeaux , wife of claude chouard 17 dec 1648, in Bures
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Post by: joger on Sunday 17 March 19 09:21 GMT (UK)
birth elisabeth peurey 20 june 1692 in Bures to charles and michelle belley godfather emmanuel vallet , godmother madeleine ollinier ?
 
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Post by: joger on Monday 18 March 19 06:39 GMT (UK)
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5726061s/f335.image
interesting article concerning the registers of the village called Bures
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Post by: joger on Monday 18 March 19 11:18 GMT (UK)
possible death of Charles Peurey in Bures in 1724, around 70 years'old

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Post by: joger on Monday 18 March 19 13:38 GMT (UK)
Back to George Gustave's mother , beware : I made mistakes on the first one
PS : I also made some on this one : Jacques Louis Massot  was not  born 33 frimaire an 14 but 3frimaire  (=24 nov 1805)
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Post by: joger on Monday 18 March 19 18:07 GMT (UK)
marriage Massot Desportes 1835 15 june , 7 pm, La Chapelle Viel,
JACQUES LOUIS MASSOT, 29 years’old, born in BONNEFOI, Orne department, 3 frimaire an 14 , wood splitter in St Martin d’Aspres, son of JACQUES PIERRE MASSOT
, also wood splitter,here present and consenting ,and MARIE FRANCOISE JAMET
And LOUISE EUFRASIE DESPORTES, about 18 years’old,born in this village 14 august 1817 ( my comment : in fact 13 aug), glove maker,living in this village, daughter of JEAN LOUIS SIMON DESPORTES master  carpenter , and BARBE EUFRASIE THIBOUT, both present

Witnesses : Jacques Desportes , 62 years’old ,uncle of the bride ,Michel Jamet , 55 years’s old , uncle of the bride,Jacques Aubert 38 years’old,, brother in law of the groom and Louis Roch Thibout, 46 years’old uncle of the bride.
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 March 19 13:51 GMT (UK)
marriage massot desportes zoom. It is written JACQUES LOUIS MASSOT, son of JACQUES PIERRE MASSOT)
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 March 19 13:58 GMT (UK)
part 2
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 March 19 14:00 GMT (UK)
part3
The signature on the first line always are those of the groom and bride

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Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 March 19 14:06 GMT (UK)
3 frimaire an 14 Bonnefoy birth of a boy called JACQUES PIERRE MASSOT, son of JACQUES PIERRE LOUIS

the last line means : one word crossed off (pierre)( null), another word added (louis in the margin)
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 March 19 14:09 GMT (UK)
last line
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 March 19 14:12 GMT (UK)
part3
The signature on the first line always are those of the groom and bride
Clearly JL
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 March 19 14:16 GMT (UK)
Mistakes of the registrar in An 14 ?
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 March 19 17:39 GMT (UK)
death of JL Massot 27 aug 1892 in St Martin d'Aspres at Mr Louis  Deroy, his son in law, formerly a "lattier " , roof batten maker born in Bonnefoi 29 nov 1805, son of the late Jacques Louis Massot and the late Jamet Marie Françoise, widower of Louise Euphrasie Desportes who died on the 24th of july 1870

    Lattier=Fabricant de lattes et de piquets. Les lattes utilisées sous les couvertures d'ardoises ou autres étaient fendues et non pas coupées afin d'assurer leur solidité grâce au fil du bois qui était, de cette manière, conservé.= roof batten maker
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Post by: joger on Tuesday 19 March 19 17:47 GMT (UK)
Death Louise Euphrasie Desportes 24 july 1870 , 11 AM  in St Martin d'Aspres, born 13 aug 1817 in La chapelle Vieil , living in les Bourdinières wife of Jacques Louis Massot, farmer in les Bourdinières, daughter of the late Jean Louis Simon Desportes and the late Barbe Euphrasie Thibout ,
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 20 March 19 07:58 GMT (UK)
marriage Jean Louis Simon Desportes , haberdasher,22 years'old born in La Chapelle Viel , 7 nivose an 2 , son of the late Simon Desportes( died in la Chapelle Viel 4 nov 1811), and Julie Victoire Marais( living in La Chapelle Viel), here present and consenting,
and Barbe Efrasie Thibout,24 years'old, born in Ste Gauburge 22 march 1792
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 20 March 19 08:01 GMT (UK)
part1 and 2
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 20 March 19 08:12 GMT (UK)
Witnesses : Simon Jean Desportes , 56, uncle,Jean Alexis Chevallier  brother in law of the bride, Louis Roc Thibout brother of the bride ,Jacques desportes brother in law of the bride
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 20 March 19 08:15 GMT (UK)
part3 :Witnesses : Simon Jean Desportes , 56, uncle,Jean Alexis Chevallier  brother in law of the bride, Louis Roc Thibout brother of the bride ,Jacques desportes brother in law of the bride
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 20 March 19 08:19 GMT (UK)
part4
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 20 March 19 08:19 GMT (UK)
part5
The first signature = (Jean Louis) Simon Des Portes (the groom)
Thibout was written thiboust
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 20 March 19 19:29 GMT (UK)
Marriage  Simon Desportes son of the late Antoine (desportes ) and Renée VICE and Julie Victoire Marais , daughter of the late Louis (marais )and Marguerite JOURDAN and 6 june 1791 in La Chapelle Vieil, all from this parish , Engagementwas  celebrated the day before in this church.
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Post by: joger on Wednesday 20 March 19 19:38 GMT (UK)
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