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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Carmarthenshire => Topic started by: MikeTheMean on Wednesday 30 January 19 22:40 GMT (UK)
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I am the family historian for the Doggett and Contratto families. My father did all the easy work back when it was hard. I am now working to find relatives from the 1700's.
The Doggett family bible refers to an Elizabeth Jackson born in 1784 at Lampeter and raised by her Uncle Admiral John Thomas. More research shows that she was christened on 07 Apr 1786 at LLANLLWNI, CARMARTHEN, WALES. Her mother was Martha Lloyd and her father was Jno Jack. I am interested in finding her relationship to Admiral John Thomas. I assume it is through his wife, Letitia Maria Lloyd, or his mother Sage Lloyd. John Thomas's father was the rector of Llanllwni and there should be a plaque in St Lukes Llanlwni church referring to his tomb in the churchyard. I have done the family search website but can not go further back than Martha. Is John Jack an odd name for this particular area? Any ideas on next steps?
I am visiting Wales this summer. I live in the USA but have cousins in the UK and one living in Southern Wales. We plan to visit the area around Llanlwni and LLandsul as part of the trip. I would also like to get in contact with anyone with information about Admiral Thomas, the Lloyds of Cardigan and general knowledge of the area between 1750 and 1820. I have done significant research on Admiral Thomas. I have almost fully documented his Naval career through logbooks and letters from the British National Archives and the British Maritime Museum. I would like to focus some effort on his time in Cardigan and Carmarthen after his service.
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Welcome to Rootschat. As this forum has a diverse 'audience', there may well be someone who can help you. Have you considered adding your surnames of interest to the surname listing?
Good luck with your search.
Jackie
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Best of luck with your research; I think you are right in wondering whether Jack would be an odd surname. It might be an abbreviation for Jackson, Elizabeth's surame.
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Hello, Mike. You seem to have made duplicate posts.
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Hello, Mike. You seem to have made duplicate posts.
Yes, I put it in the wrong spot and do not know how to delete a post. Sorry. Rookie mistake
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Welcome to Rootschat. As this forum has a diverse 'audience', there may well be someone who can help you. Have you considered adding your surnames of interest to the surname listing?
Good luck with your search.
Jackie
Yes, how do you do that?
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Best of luck with your research; I think you are right in wondering whether Jack would be an odd surname. It might be an abbreviation for Jackson, Elizabeth's surame.
She is listed as Lloyd, Lloyd Jackson and Jackson on various records. But my question was specific to this region around Llanlwni. Jack or Jackson does not appear to be a common surname in this specific area. True or false. Please explain answer. ;)
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Hello again
To add surnames to the listing, if you go to the lower part of this page, to the Tools area - it lists Surname Interests, just click and go to add record. It is an easy process.
Jackie
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For Admiral John Thomas to be the uncle,in the current interpretation,of Martha,John Thomas would have to have a sister who married a Lloyd.The pedigree in the attached,which seems an invaluable reference,only shows brothers.I don't know whether it was just convention.
https://archive.org/details/somefamilyrecord00thea/page/n129
There is always the possibility that patronymics plays a role where Martha Lloyd is daughter of Lloyd "X".Indeed you will find an interesting example in the records where Hugh Lloyd,of Lloyd Jack,is involved in the conveyance of Llanvechan to the then Captain John Thomas.
Regards
Roger
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Amongst a plethora of brothers,I can find a single sister,Margaret Thomas,baptised 1753.(Records on FreeReg).However,I can't find a subsequent marriage for her to a Lloyd at the moment.
Regards
Roger
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I think the connection is through John Thomas’s wife, Letitia Maria Lloyd or his mother , sage Lloyd. The document link looks very good. I will spend some time with that! I am almost certain she is not directly related to John Thomas. Please send info in John Thomas sister.