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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: RodEast on Thursday 31 January 19 10:30 GMT (UK)
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I am seeking any information regarding Thomas Capie born circa 1818. The only information I have been able to find on Scotlandspeople is that marriage banns were booked for proclamation on 2 December 1838 in Lesmahagow and his wife name was Marion Greenshields and that they lived in Lesmahagow between 1841 and 1881. Any information regarding his marriage, birth and ancestors would be appreciated.
RodEast
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Hello
I've not got anything to back this up but I'd go for parents John Brodie and Margaret.
1841 Abbey Green Lesmahagow
John 70 flesher
Margaret 60
Lemual/Samuel 25 wright
If you look at Thomas and Marion's children ,the eldest son seems to be named after her father Robert and then there are sons John and Samuel.
Plus John in 1841 and Thomas are both fleshers.
I can't see any christenings for John and Margaret's children,but that would be my guess.
Ciderdrinker
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I cant find a Baptism/Birth for Thomas but there must be a connection to Samuel Capie born c 1816 Lesmahagow.
Thomas names a Son Samuel and Samuel/Thomas both name a Daug Margaret Pate Capie.
Samuel married 1842 and died 1849 (from Familysearch.Org)
This appears to be him in 1841 in Lesmahagow;
Abbey Green, Lesmahagow
John Capie, 70, Flesher
Margarete Capie, 60
Lemuel*** Capie, 25, Wright
Looks for a marriage of John/Margaret with little luck with on line free resources. My gut tells me she is probably nee Pate :)
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Great minds think alike Ciderdrinker :)
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Margaret is still alive in 1851 Census born c 1779 Lesmahagw, Lanark (as transcribed on Anc)
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Has anyone looked at Freecen?
There are quite a few people named Capie in Lesmahagw at 1841, spread out over a number of households.
John Capie as mentioned above, is the eldest at age 70.
All the others are more than 30yrs his junior.
Families of
43yr old James Capie: Flesher
41yr old William Capie : Flesher
It's a guess but it looks like the Lesmahagow Capies cover at least 3 generations of one family
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Just giving link to other post that mentions Thomas
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=807304.0
I did wonder on that post whether he was in fact baptised in Gosport :-\ (Birth places are not always right )
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I checked out the Gosport Connection and could not find a link to Scotland. However I did find a mass christening of Margaret, Samuel, Susan and Marion Capie on 7th Nov 1852 in Lesmahagow from Scotlandspeople which also stating that Thomas was deceased (1851-1852).
If you are right about Margaret Pate there is a baptism in Lesmahago 31 dec 1780 parents George Pate and Janet Smith but I can't see anything for John
Rod East
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There is a death on SP of Margaret Pate or Capie in Lesmahagow in 1857. Her mother's maiden surname was Porteous. You can download a copy of the certificate from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk at modest cost.
The 1841 census lists at Abbeygreen, Lesmahagow John Capie, 70, flesher; Margaret Capie, 60; and Samuel Capie, 25. That's from the FreeCEN transcription, so it would be advisable to check the original on SP to see if John is a mistranscription or error and should read Thomas. By 1851 there is only Margaret Capie, widow, 72, washerwoman, born Lesmagahow in that household. However there are households in Lesmahagow headed by Thomas Capie, 33 and by John Capie, 48 and William Capie, 51. Also a widowed Elisabeth Capie, 31. Have a look at it for yourself at https://freecen1.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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This appears to be him in 1841 in Lesmahagow;
Abbey Green, Lesmahagow
John Capie, 70, Flesher
Margarete Capie, 60
Lemuel*** Capie, 25, Wright
FreeCEN transcribes him as Samuel. Check the original on SP.
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There is a death on SP of Margaret Pate or Capie in Lesmahagow in 1857. Her mother's maiden surname was Porteous. You can download a copy of the certificate from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk at modest cost.
The 1841 census lists at Abbeygreen, Lesmahagow John Capie, 70, flesher; Margaret Capie, 60; and Samuel Capie, 25. That's from the FreeCEN transcription, so it would be advisable to check the original on SP to see if John is a mistranscription or error and should read Thomas. By 1851 there is only Margaret Capie, widow, 72, washerwoman, born Lesmagahow in that household. However there are households in Lesmahagow headed by Thomas Capie, 33 and by John Capie, 48 and William Capie, 51. Also a widowed Elisabeth Capie, 31. Have a look at it for yourself at https://freecen1.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
According to Sheila Scott's book of Monumental Inscriptions for the Upper Ward of Lanarkshire, there are 7 stones in Lesmahagow churchyard that mention the name Capie but, none of them have a Thomas. The widowed Elizabeth Capie aged 31 will probably be the wife of Samuel Capie who died 21st June 1846 aged 31 years, Elizabeth Carmichael his widow died 24th July 1858 aged 38 years.
There is an 1821 census for Lesmahagow, taken by the Church of Scotland which may or may not be complete. There is only one household with Capie (Cappie), it is in Abbey Green and consists of John Cappie and M. Pate, with a total of 6 males and 2 females in the house.
There is also an incomplete 1783 census for that parish, it only mentions part of Abbey Green and there is no mention of the name Cappie/Capie/Kapie.
I have a little booklet, printed in 1914 entitled "Lesmahagow Inhabitants of Fifty Years Ago". It is in rhyme (of sorts) and was composed by "Mr Thomas Thomson of Ohio USA, late of Craighead Mill, Lesmahagow".
One mention of the butcher, "Flesher Capie" and also "Kate McGhie that married John Capie".