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A cry of desperation I have too many Edwads can anyone help sort them out please?
I'll take it in small parts to try ro simplify it
Part 1
on the 1891 census for Kilburn Park Rd Paddington I find a family that may be on my tree.
Edward McMullan 36 born Panceas
Mary A 35 Brixham Devon
Edward 6 Paddington
I need to find Mary Ann's maiden name to do this I need to find where and when thcy marry?
Find registratin of son Edwards birth I have failed to find thrse facts using the Free BMD and GRO Index sites
In 1911 on Willesden I find
Annie McMillan 54 wid Brixham Devon
Edward son 26 Marylebone,
Is this the same family?
What was Edward's occupation?
If so where were they in 1901?
When did Edward Snr die?
Hope some one can help :)
Part 2 to follow...health warning it gets harder!
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Edward McMillan - registered December quarter 1884 - Marylebone = mmn Williams
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A cry of desperation I have too many Edwads can anyone help sort them out please?
I need to find Mary Ann's maiden name to do this I need to find where and when thcy marry?
Find registratin of son Edwards birth I have failed to find thrse facts using the Free BMD and GRO Index sites
Working backward with the original Death, Marriage & Birth Certificates your family might have (or the Copy Certificates you have purchased) issued by the Registrar of Births Marriages & Deaths from your known family you (and perhaps your father / Mother) actually physically knew, what do the Certificates of your known family actually say, so that you can find them in the 1911 Census?
The England & Wales Census is almost complete, but not quite.
You shouldn't be looking at trying to link to a Tree, many have such bad errors, that you can get the wrong line.
A line of possible interest, in three out of three Family Trees checked by me in the last month (all submitted to a very well known Family History Site) all have the most awful connection errors!
Mark
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Edward McMillan - registered December quarter 1884 - Marylebone = mmn Williams
There is this Edward in 1901 571/158/8
Edward McMillan 16 yrs b Marylebone
He is boarding with a Rosanna Marshall and family and is a ‘Labourer in Arsenal’.
Would he be the right one though?
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Edward McMillan - registered December quarter 1884 - Marylebone = mmn Williams
Edward McMillan was born 2 Oct 1884 according to his school admission record (admitted 21 March 1892 to St Augustine’s School). Father: Edward, of 4 Kilburn Park Rd.
Edward jnr left the school on 26 February 1900.
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Edward McMillan - registered December quarter 1884 - Marylebone = mmn Williams
There is this Edward in 1891 571/158/8
Edward McMillan 16 yrs b Marylebone
He is boarding with a Rosanna Marshall and family and is a ‘Labourer in Arsenal’.
Would he be the right one though?
That is 1901 rather than 1891 but I thought the same.
There should be a marriage for him c1907-8.
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1901 7/59/31
Edward and Annie McMillan 4 Kilburn Rd with several boarders.
So, is Edward McMillan your Edward McMullen?
** I have changed the year re young Edward - sorry
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The occupations match for Edward Senior in 1891 and 1901 = House Painter.
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Poss marriage for “young” Edward?
Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
DEW Amy Elizabeth Hendon 3a 634 Scan available - click to view
EVANS Owen Hendon 3a 634 Scan available - click to view
HILLS Maud Lucy Hendon 3a 634 Scan available - click to view
MCMILLAN Edward Hendon 3a 634
Place of birth for Annie in 1911 matches 1901
It was Amy Elizabeth DEW
With her parents in 1911
MCMILLAN, LIONEL EDWARD GEORGE DEW Order
GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in ST MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 471
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So much wonderful help snd now I think you have shown it is unlikely to be my Edward after all
Edward McMullin was a prisoner in Chatham in 1881 born in Sidmouth, Devon 1852
His father Edward was living in Highgate with his other son John and his family and his unmarried daughter Elizabeth. Father, Brother and Sister had visited Edward in prison several times. He was released in 1884
Brother John was married to Salome Miller from Brixham Devon (Mary A or Annie was also from Brixham strange coincidence?)
But there was an Edward 1855 born in Pancras with father Edward mother Selina on the 1861 and 1871 censuses so was he the one married to Mary Ann/Annie?? Selina's husband was a house decorator in 1881 So this looks more like the familyfirst mentioned
I wonder what did happen to the prisoner
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The Free BMD Index and GRO Indexes are only an index aid, to try and order the right Family Certificate, which will usually contain a lot more information.
Mark
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Working backward with the original Death, Marriage & Birth Certificates your family might have (or the Copy Certificates you have purchased) issued by the Registrar of Births Marriages & Deaths from your known family you (and perhaps your father / Mother) actually physically knew, what do the Certificates of your known family actually say, so that you can find them in the 1911 Census?
I do all that and agree its daft to try to link to other trees I'm not doing that now
I have recently found after years of hard work the top of our McMullin tree was James a shoe maker from Bellaghy his son HENRY is 2X great grandfather ,
We know Henry has a brother Edward 1814
Now I have found an Edward born in IRELAND in 1814 a boot and shoe maker on one census and a cordwainer on another living in Sidmouth Devon. I am waiting for his marriage certificate to come back to see if this one is Henry's brother
In case it is I have followed him up a bit . He has a sons named James Henry, Edward and John which match the names on Henry's tree hence the interest. Finding the case about his son Edward. I was wondering if he had married after discharge,
The family knew nothing about any of Henry's siblings before our recent breakthrough finding his baptism. We have however a great deal about Henry Who was known by grandfather who lived to 1004 and told us a lot about him and being a career soldier was fairly easy to track through out his adult life.
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In 1911 on Willesden I find
Annie McMillan 54 wid Brixham Devon
Edward son 26 Marylebone,
Hello
So your BMD Certificates and family research take you to the above 1911 Census and these are your ancestors and you descend from the Son, Edward?
Mark
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No I don't descend from EDWARD nor have I ever said I do look at my last post for clarification. My husband descends from Henry I am waiting for a marriage certificate that will either give more proof or completely dismiss Edward born 1814 IRELAND who turns up in Sidmouth as Henry's brother. The certificate is due to arrive first week of FEBRUARY until it arrives I have been looking at Edward in case he does eventually link and can be added
Reasons for my interest
1 Henry's known brother was born and baptised in 1814 in Ireland The Edward In Sidmouth was born in IRELAND in 1814
2 Henry and his siblings were sons and daughters of James a shoe The Edward In Sidmouth
3 Henry and the Sidmouth Edward both named their first son James ( the Sidmouth child was James Henry
4 both Henry and Sidmouth Edward had a son named Edward
5 Both families spell the surname McMullin
So may consequences? Enough to make me send for the marriage certificate and spend time looking at his family.
What we know is that Henry did not mention his parents or siblings in fact Grandfather thought he was a Scot and he described his gran as being a fine lady with a fine Scots accent he was proud to think the family united Britain as four generations back from my husband's father had been born in each of the four countries of Great Britain
Father in Wales 1921
Grandfather in England 1891
Gt Grandfather 1859 James in Ireland while his father was stationed there
Gt Gt Grandfather Henry in Scotland 1824
This we have proved was inaccurate as although Henry served in the Argylls he had been recruited in Ireland and was of Irish parents We went to the Argyll Regimental museum and with the help of a curator researched in their library finding a wealth of interesting material relating to Henry's service. Grandfather lived until he was 1004 and we recorded many talks with him about his family a treasured oral history backed up with documentary evidence where possible
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on the 1891 census for Kilburn Park Rd Paddington I find a family that may be on my tree.
Edward McMullan 36 born Panceas
Mary A 35 Brixham Devon
Edward 6 Paddington
I need to find Mary Ann's maiden name to do this I need to find where and when thcy marry?
Find registratin of son Edwards birth I have failed to find thrse facts using the Free BMD and GRO Index sites
In 1911 on Willesden I find
Annie McMillan 54 wid Brixham Devon
Edward son 26 Marylebone,
Is this the same family?
What was Edward's occupation?
If so where were they in 1901?
When did Edward Snr die?
1911 Census, Kilburn
Annie McMillan, Head, 54 Widow, Devon Brixham
Edward McMillan, Son, 26 London Marylebone
1901 Census, 4 Kilburn Pk Road, Kilburn, Paddington
Edward McMillan, Head, M, 46, House Painter, Born London.
Annie McMillan, Wife, M, 44, Born Devonshire.
1891 Census, 4 Kilburn Park Rd, Paddington
Edward McMillan, Head, M, 36, House Painter, Born London St Pancras.
Mary A. McMillan, Wife, M, 35, Born Devonshire Brixham.
Edward McMillan, Son, 6, Scholar, Born London Paddington.
Mark
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Mark,
That’s the family found previously and now discounted.
Heywood
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Hello
Whilst searching I did find this Annie McMullen born London, with Hugh born Ireland.
1891 Census, Spitalfields, Whitechapel (wrote down notes only of first two lines)
Hugh McMullen, Head, M, 30, Stableman, born Ireland.
Annie McMullen born about 1857, London Poplar.
others beneath on the image
McMillan is coming up, with a lot of Scotland returns anyway.
Mark
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Thank you everyone but its time to call a halt now at least until I get the marriage certificate back. It was/is a long shot in the dark after all and to be honest I am using this line of research to keep me occupied while recovering from the latest eye operation it may all prove to be a red herring We have a pretty solid main line established this was a possible lateral line which would bush the tree out a bit.
Many thanks for your interest.
Trees
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