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Title: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Wednesday 06 February 19 12:27 GMT (UK)
Can't remember why it was that in the past people married on Xmas Day, was it because it was a day off from their work? Vicars must have been busy!
Cr
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 06 February 19 12:30 GMT (UK)
I am sure that is the reason, my parents got married on Easter Sunday 1937 for the same reason

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 06 February 19 13:01 GMT (UK)
https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/christmas-day-weddings-1501869494.html



Gadget
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Mowsehowse on Wednesday 06 February 19 13:02 GMT (UK)
Given it has always been a time for church services, family, celebration and feasting it was a good time to share weddings without losing work time.
And vicars are always busy at Christmas time anyway.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Mowsehowse on Wednesday 06 February 19 13:04 GMT (UK)
Brilliant article. Thanks Gadget.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 06 February 19 13:07 GMT (UK)
Xmas Day in Scotland was just a working day & couples often married at Ne'erday (New Year!)


Skoosh.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 06 February 19 13:15 GMT (UK)
There is a previous topic on Christmas Day weddings on RootsChat https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=705093.0

Stan
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Cockneyrebel on Wednesday 06 February 19 14:48 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much All.
Cr
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Ray T on Thursday 07 February 19 09:41 GMT (UK)
Be careful not to view the Xmas of the past in the same way as the obsession it has become today.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: radstockjeff on Thursday 07 February 19 11:46 GMT (UK)
George Parsons married Eliza Watson at the Wisbech General Baptist Chruch on Christmas Day 1854 and by the middle of January they were on their way on the clipper "Omega" to Australia, where George carved out a very profitable business as Blacksmith, Waggonwright and coachbuilder, on the main road out of Melbourne to the Castlemaine goldfields.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 07 February 19 11:52 GMT (UK)
Sunday was always  day or rest, today if you apply for any job now you have to be aware you will be asked to work on a Sunday as part of your contract if needed, bring back the old days when families could share Sundays together whether  it be going to church or a family day out, I am sure retailers don't take any more money on a Sunday, it is spread over 7 days

I certainly would not work on a Sunday unless there was a special reason to

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 07 February 19 12:25 GMT (UK)
I was a big fan of Sunday working as it was double-time & selling your labour at the highest price is common-sense!  ;D

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 07 February 19 13:10 GMT (UK)
Can't remember why it was that in the past people married on Xmas Day, was it because it was a day off from their work? Vicars must have been busy!
Cr


For many it wasn't a day off.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Ray T on Thursday 07 February 19 15:53 GMT (UK)
If you don’t want to work on a Sunday, don’t get a job which requires it. Personally, I see nothing different between the position of shop workers, nurses, emergency service personnel or, for that matter, vicars.

I see no reason why the religious fraternity/minority should dictate what the rest of us should or shouldn’t do or when we should or shouldn’t do it.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 07 February 19 16:58 GMT (UK)
Ray, it is a matter of personal choice, my choice is, I do not want to work on a Sunday unless I am involved in some sort of service for the public, I was really initially meaning shops opening on a Sunday, nothing to do with religion

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Ray T on Thursday 07 February 19 18:16 GMT (UK)
Louisa Maud, I thought that was what I said. My wife worked Sundays and Xmas day because she worked in the NHS. I didn't but I wouldn't have objected to doing so.

What I do object to, however, is being told that I can't do "X" because it's against the law to do so purely because the religious lobby has the ear of the politicians. Forcing a shop to open (as is the case with shops selling bread in France)is one thing but forcing them to close is entirely another.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Guy Etchells on Thursday 07 February 19 19:05 GMT (UK)
Despite there being a claim there was a tradition of Christmas day marriages the parish registers do not seem to bear this out except for a few parishes for a few years mainly in the 19th & 20th centuries.
E.G. St James the Great, Bethnal Green from 1866, but this church and similar practised free weddings and increased the number of weddings all year dramatically by this from 108 in 1864 to 1105 in 1866 & 1208 in 1867 but these were not confined to Christmas.
See http://www.royall.co.uk/royall/marriages-for-free.php

From the research I have done Boxing day was a more common day for weddings, yes there were weddings on Christmas day but in most parishes for most years no more than any other day of the week.


Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Redroger on Thursday 07 February 19 19:11 GMT (UK)
My 2 great grandparents were married in Alford (Lincs) church on 25th December 1797. Apparently that day there was no fee to be paid
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Bearnan on Thursday 07 February 19 20:29 GMT (UK)
My nan and grandad married Christmas day 1920 at St. Matthews Church, Duddeston, Birmingham along with several other couples.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 10 February 19 18:39 GMT (UK)
I was a big fan of Sunday working as it was double-time & selling your labour at the highest price is common-sense!  ;D

Skoosh.
Nice one Skoosh. Preferably in a fully unionised environment.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 10 February 19 20:26 GMT (UK)
Of course Roger!  ;D

The days of ministers lying down on Hebridean piers to try & stop Sunday ferries are thankfully long gone in Scotland.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Top-of-the-hill on Sunday 10 February 19 23:12 GMT (UK)
   I doubt if many people get double time for Sunday working now, and there are not many fully unionised environments.
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: louisa maud on Monday 11 February 19 07:18 GMT (UK)
I agree T of the H, I think you will find it is part of the new contracts that came in  roundabout 1990

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Redroger on Monday 11 February 19 14:54 GMT (UK)
Of course Roger!  ;D

The days of ministers lying down on Hebridean piers to try & stop Sunday ferries are thankfully long gone in Scotland.

Skoosh.
Presumably they have all migrated southwestward?
Title: Re: Marriages on Xmas Day
Post by: Redroger on Monday 11 February 19 14:56 GMT (UK)
   I doubt if many people get double time for Sunday working now, and there are not many fully unionised environments.
Much of the problem regarding the failure of Sunday train services. No longer paid for working on some companies.