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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Farmerlyn on Saturday 09 February 19 05:01 GMT (UK)
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Looking for anything on Charles Swan(n) from Kent DOB 1821. He moved to New Zealand then Australia.
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There are various Charles Swans born around 1821 in Kent.
When did he arrive in New Zealand?
Do you know the names of his children?
Presumably have you no information on his Father?
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This is from a tree on Ancestry : not yet checked any of it, other than the baptism shows in local records:
Charles Swan
Father Richard Swan Mother Susanna Watts
Birth 1821 Hartlip Kent England
Death 04/1895 Bairnsdale Victoria Australia
Residence New South Wales Australia
You have not said when your Charles died, and where, is it the same man?
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Thanks Chempat, the Charles you have is the same man. Details of death is accurate however as far as Im aware he did not reside in NSW. I have not found this on the ancestry site I am in. I will check other ones. He is a mystery as he supposedly married a Caroline Britnell in New Zealand yet there is no record of this. She married a John Garrett, with no divorce record.
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Tree looks a mixture : Richard and second wife and 8 children arrive in 1835 in Australia, Charles arrives in 1835 in Australia via convict ship.
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This is exciting, it sounds possible. I know Charles was born in England and have heard he was a convict. I did find he was sent to Aus due to his conviction. I have no info on his original family. I do have his children who were all born in NZ..
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Sorry just saw your earlier post. I have no knowledge of Charles family he was born into. He had children with Caroline Britnell in NZ
Sarah Emma Swan
1855–1952
Lois Swan
1858–1941
Edward James Swan
1860–1925
Alice Swan
1861–1945
Edith Swan
1863–1906
James Swan
1866–1928
Emily Swan
1866–1946
Martha Swan
1868–1954
William Swan
1871–1902
Edit
Charles Swan
1874–1959
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There's a baptism for a Charles Swan in Hartlip on 9th September 1821, son of Richard & Susanna.
It would be worth looking at assizes records and newspapers for any details of offence and place he was living.
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thanks will get on to it
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https://australianroyalty.net.au/individual.php?pid=I32183&ged=purnellmccord.ged
Does the information on this tree tie in with what you know?
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Until I found this site I had no info on Charles family. What I have since been sent by all of you seems to tie in perfectly. What you just posted has the details which fit the other info I have been sent
Thank you so much
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Sorry just saw your earlier post. I have no knowledge of Charles family he was born into. He had children with Caroline Britnell in NZ
Sarah Emma Swan
1855–1952
Lois Swan
1858–1941
Edward James Swan .
1860–1925
Alice Swan .
1861–1945
Edith Swan .
1863–1906
James Swan .
1866–1928
Emily Swan .
1866–1946
Martha Swan .
1868–1954
William Swan .
1871–1902
Edit
Charles Swan .
1874–1959
This list does not check out against NZBDM
Here are NZBDM results
1874/18556 Swann Charles Caroline Charles
1871/23740 Swann William Caroline Charles
1868/20693 Swan NotRecorded (Martha?) Caroline Charles
1866/17106 Swan Emily Caroline Charles
1866/17109 Swan James Caroline Charles
1863/5701 Swann Edith Caroline Charles
1861/9639 Swann Alice Caroline Charles
1860/3596 Swan Edward Caroline Charles
Caroline married John Garret in 1852?
Sarah Emma Swan b1855 <------Was her birth registered anywhere in NZ or AU? Or have you sighted her original baptism?
Lois Swan b 1858 <------Was her birth registered anywhere in NZ or AU? Or have you sighted her original baptism?
Without these documents both these girls may have been John Garrets daughters and he may have died between 1858 and 1860?
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Tree on Ancestry claims:
Sarah Emma Swan(1855–1952)
23 Oct 1855 • Riwaka, Tasman, Tasman, New Zealand
Lois Swan(1858–1941)
5 Mar 1858 • Kaiteri, Tasman, New Zealand