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Title: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: temper on Sunday 10 February 19 06:03 GMT (UK)
Daniel Parkinson born Pendleton Lancashire England, C1827 ? , I have details of census 1841 to 1901. however cannot find birth record, to find his parents, can anyone help please
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 February 19 06:26 GMT (UK)
Where is he living in those censuses?

Did he marry? Do you have the details?
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: amondg on Sunday 10 February 19 06:27 GMT (UK)
Could this be him
Halshaw Moor Independent Chapel - Non Conformist
Daniel bap 10 September 1829 born 29 July (implied 1829)
father Henry Parkinson  and Betty Smithurst, abode Farnworth, father  Collier.

On ancestry
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: temper on Sunday 10 February 19 06:49 GMT (UK)
Oops, I posted that I had records from 1841/1901 but in fact I do not have 1841. Daniel was shown as married in the 1851 census, wife Mary along with first child Mary Ann. His age is listed differently in each census. so this is what is making the search for his birth difficult.
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: temper on Sunday 10 February 19 06:56 GMT (UK)
Heywood,
In the 1851 census he was living at Hurst Court, Salford, Lancashire but has a different address in each census following.
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: temper on Sunday 10 February 19 07:02 GMT (UK)
Amondg,
I thank you for your information, and will try to follow up, however on the census he has only moved streets and has stayed in the Salford area, so I am wondering if the area might not match. I have found a marriage 1850, to a Mary Green so I will try to go back to find her previous abode. and hope that this may give me a thread
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 February 19 07:10 GMT (UK)
I am looking the children up without much success - different motherís maiden names  ::)

There is quite a gap between Jane A born abt 1851 and Emma abt 1859 which could mean a second relationship.

There is also a Daniel b Pendlebury married to Mary in Swinton which puzzled me at first.
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: temper on Sunday 10 February 19 07:36 GMT (UK)
Heywood,
the Swinton Daniel and Mary are not the correct family, I have already followed that one.
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 February 19 07:39 GMT (UK)
Yes, I discounted that family.

There is this family in 1841 in Pendleton but the son is Nathaniel. I canít see him later.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQG7-P2G

In 1851 this is the family - no Nathaniel (or Daniel) and father Richard has aged somewhat.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGNZ-QCP
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: temper on Sunday 10 February 19 07:53 GMT (UK)
Heywood,
Yes I have that information, and was wondering if he changed his name! I know from the marriage certificate of Jane Ann, that her father was a Spinner, she was married twice, the second marriage is my line, i.e. Parkinson to Savage, Savage to Whitehead. Jane Ann is my maternal greatgrandmother.
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: amondg on Sunday 10 February 19 08:08 GMT (UK)
Okay I'm confused, you say he only moved a few streets from 1851-1891 yet
in 1871 Mary Ann is born Manchester
Jane Ann is born Salford
Emma born Manchester
Louisa born Swinton
Edward born Swinton

Did the districts change that much.
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 February 19 08:31 GMT (UK)
It is a bit confusing. Do you have Jane Annís birth details?

1871 3966/149/85

Edward Parkinson 2 yrs
William Ed Taylor 2 yrs grandson
Both shown as born Swinton

Possible births Barton upon Irwell
Edwin Parkinson 1868 mmn Hindley
William Edward Parkinson 1869 no motherís name


There is a birth Louisa Parkinson 1860 Salford mmn Hindle.
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 February 19 09:08 GMT (UK)
Baptisms Salford Cathedral  (from Latin)

All on 25th March 1865

Jane Ann daughter of Daniel and Mary (formerly Hindley)
Born 4th February 1853

Mary Ann born 19th March 1848

Louisa born 19th March 1865

Address 32 Deal Street
Godparent for all Epiphania Lane

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html

Also shows William and Edwin baptised at St Peter, Swinton

Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: temper on Sunday 10 February 19 10:37 GMT (UK)
Heywood,
I am reasonably sure that I have the right family, I have traced back through Jane Ann, as I mentioned I have a copy of the marriage certificate, and even the witnesses tally, (Edward Parkinson, and Emma Parkinson) however it is Jane Ann's father that I am stumped on. I have found a family on the 1851 census.. Head, John b 1804 and wife Elizabeth b 1810 Abode, Back Lane,Barton upon Irwell.. most of the children are listed as born in Pendleton, this may be a lead ???
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: temper on Sunday 10 February 19 10:49 GMT (UK)
Heywood,
none of the census show the address Deal St, I am happy with what I have researched for the family, just Daniel has been the brick wall
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 February 19 11:20 GMT (UK)
I am not doubting that you have the right family.

The 1865 address is mid census.

Do you mean that you donít think the baptisms are your family?

Do you have Maryís maiden name?
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 February 19 11:39 GMT (UK)
I have found a family on the 1851 census.. Head, John b 1804 and wife Elizabeth b 1810 Abode, Back Lane,Barton upon Irwell.. most of the children are listed as born in Pendleton, this may be a lead ???

What kind of a lead do you mean - father or brother?

Did you follow up the Mary Green marriage?
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: temper on Sunday 10 February 19 11:58 GMT (UK)
Heywood,
I thought that this might have been a lead to Daniel's parents, however I cannot find them on the 1841 census. The marriage of Daniel to Mary Green was in 1850 in Garstang, Lanc, (family search site) also found a birth record for Mary 9.5.1826 Wesleyan, Garstang,,Father John, Mother Jane. And a birth record for Daniel 26.10.1828, at St.Helen's Church, Garstang,,Father Richard, Mother Elizabeth. Will keep digging.[ but will have to be in 24 hours, I am in Australia, bed and business coming up till then]
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: Annette7 on Sunday 10 February 19 13:46 GMT (UK)
The marriage of Daniel Parkinson 1850 Garstang was not to a Mary Green but to a Dorothy Thuxton.  (although he was a cotton spinner, son of Richard Parkinson, labourer).

Annette
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 February 19 14:41 GMT (UK)
Heywood,
none of the census show the address Deal St, I am happy with what I have researched for the family, just Daniel has been the brick wall

Louisaís birth might help. Hopefully born in Deal Street. Unless they just gave the address for baptism.
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 February 19 23:29 GMT (UK)
Amy Parkinson b 1857 mmn Hindley

That will be Emmaís birth. It is odd that she wasnít baptised with the others in 1865.

Do you have Jane Annís birth?

As far as I can see, the birth of Amy/Emma is the first Parkinson/Hindley. Children born after this birth are registered as that.

Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 11 February 19 16:01 GMT (UK)
Hello
There is a
Henrietta Eliza mmn Hindle registered in 1840 Manchester
Charles Parkinson mmn Hindley registered in 1851 Salford
Ann Parkinson mmn Hindley registered in 1852 Salford
Ellen mmn Hindley 1855 Chorlton
Amy mmn Hindley 1857 Chorlton
Louisa Parkinson mmn Hindle registered in 1860 Salford
William Henry mmn Hindley registered in 1866 Salford


Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heywood on Monday 11 February 19 18:36 GMT (UK)
Thanks Heather.
I was fairly sure that was Emma so maybe not  :-\

They are both quite common surnames so that could be a different family and only birth certificates or baptism records would confirm the family.

I think that the Catholic records with late baptisms are likely to be the family but temper seems to think they are not. The birth dates given, however, do not fit. :-\

I have asked if Jane Annís birth record has been found.

I have been looking on and off and have seen some tenuous records but nothing which could be deemed a possibility.
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heywood on Monday 11 February 19 18:56 GMT (UK)
Hello
There is a
Henrietta Eliza mmn Hindle registered in 1840 Manchester
Charles Parkinson mmn Hindley registered in 1851 Salford
Ann Parkinson mmn Hindley registered in 1852 Salford
Ellen mmn Hindley 1855 Chorlton
Amy mmn Hindley 1857 Chorlton
Louisa Parkinson mmn Hindle registered in 1860 Salford
William Henry mmn Hindley registered in 1866 Salford

1861 census shows Louisa with Daniel and Mary but she is b Manchester.
William Henry died 1868.
Title: Re: Daniel Parkinson
Post by: heywood on Monday 11 February 19 21:43 GMT (UK)
Going back to Amy/Emma, I just noticed that in 1881 her birth is shown as ĎOrford Roadí which I would think is Oxford Road.
If so, then this would fit with the registration district Chorlton.