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Title: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: hencarrai on Sunday 10 February 19 12:26 GMT (UK)
The 1939 Register shows Phoebe Parry age 52 living at the Flights, Ledbury.
There appear to be 34 people under one roof.
Can anyone please tell me what sort of place it was / is?
A hostel maybe or hospital?

Title: Re: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 10 February 19 13:06 GMT (UK)
The only thing that I can find is an ancient Farm complex, called Flights Farm:

https://htt.herefordshire.gov.uk/her-search/monuments-search/search/Monument?ID=5414

Also a map:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/101570103#zoom=4&lat=4365&lon=3712&layers=BT


Gadget
Title: Re: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: mazi on Sunday 10 February 19 14:33 GMT (UK)
I have found reference ti ďAnne fawke born  at the flights Ledbury. Part of an anc..y message board,
May be a clue there if you have ancestry

Mike
Title: Re: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 10 February 19 14:40 GMT (UK)
The links I gave do suggest a series of buildings.  Could the 1939 register have some of the address column include a blanked out address because some of the names have been redacted, so it looks as if there are more people there than, in fact, there are?

Gadget
Title: Re: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: mazi on Sunday 10 February 19 14:50 GMT (UK)
Was the district Ledbury urban or Ledbury rural, Ledbury rural covers a huge area and includes a hop pickers encampment amongst others similar

Mike
Title: Re: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: hencarrai on Sunday 10 February 19 14:52 GMT (UK)
Hi, thanks for the replies.
I'll have a look at Ann Fawkes.

The inhabitants are numbered 1 to 34 which suggests they are under one roof.

Ledbury R D.
Maybe hop pickers is the clue?
Rob
Title: Re: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 10 February 19 14:54 GMT (UK)
I've looked at them and they are not necessarily the same roof. It's just that they are consecutive on the register. Look at the  separate address book files.
Title: Re: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 10 February 19 15:00 GMT (UK)
Amended post

I've looked at them and they are not necessarily the same roof. It's just that they are consecutive on the register. Look at the  separate address book files.

It could be that there are a number of buildings with the same address.

Title: Re: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 10 February 19 15:09 GMT (UK)
Very difficult as we can't give details of 1939 but I think it is likely to be what Mike suggests

Ledbury rural covers a huge area and includes a hop pickers encampment amongst others similar

Mike


PS - husband's ancestors lived in Ledbury area and I know that they had a large farm and hired seasonal help.
Title: Re: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: mazi on Sunday 10 February 19 15:15 GMT (UK)
The c1939 was taken late September, which is also cider apple gathering time :) :)
Title: Re: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 10 February 19 15:17 GMT (UK)
The c1939 was taken late September, which is also cider apple gathering time :) :)

I think you're right, Mike. Mother in Law used to talk about visiting there at that time and drawers of money to pay the seasonal workers!
Title: Re: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: macwil on Sunday 10 February 19 15:32 GMT (UK)
I've looked at them and they are not necessarily the same roof. It's just that they are consecutive on the register. Look at the  separate address book files.

Sorry Gadget, but it is classed as one residence as the schedule number makes clear. No. 61 sub no. 1 - 34.
The occupants employment varies from domestic duties/ house duties (some marked unpaid),  and domestic servant and several children both at school and under school age.
The previous entry No 60 sub no 1 - 4 is listed as The Flights occupied by a farmer his wife, daughter and a farm hand.

So yes I think they are probably casual workers or possibly evacuees occupying either a large single building or a series of interconnected ones.
Title: Re: The Flights, Ledbury
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 10 February 19 15:41 GMT (UK)
Yes - I saw that and posted:

Amended post

I've looked at them and they are not necessarily the same roof. It's just that they are consecutive on the register. Look at the  separate address book files.

It could be that there are a number of buildings with the same address.



The problem is that we can't discuss  the contents of the  1939

Added - think we came to the conclusion that they were seasonal workers.