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Title: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Aussielass on Monday 18 February 19 13:05 GMT (UK)
Neil Carey arrived in Australia in 1853, originally from Mullingar Co.Westmeath, Ireland.  He headed to the Ballarat Goldfields, and became a mounted police constable, and in later years, the owner of a Hotel at Bungaree.  He is the person seated in the photo, the other person standing is unknown.  A clean-up would be very much appreciated, and even a dash of colour would be nice.  Date of photo is not known.  If anyone is brave enough, removal of the unknown person standing in the photo would highlight Neil more.  ;) 

Thanks and kind regards, Aussielass :)

Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: jim1 on Monday 18 February 19 15:43 GMT (UK)
Late 1860's - 1870's for a date.
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: John-76 on Monday 18 February 19 18:52 GMT (UK)
As you see the standing gentleman can be removed fairly easily, but how would you want the composition to be after removal?  Mr Carey can be repositioned with a different background or the same background can be expanded.  Using the same BG would be time consuming and difficult to look perfect, but could be done.  Do you want the same border area in the vintage look or a solid i.e., white color?  It'll be a fun picture to do, but nice to do it the way you want.  The coloring can be done after all the corrections are finished.
John
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Trishanne on Monday 18 February 19 21:40 GMT (UK)
As John says the original background would be difficult to extend. I decided to go for a different background and have put him in front of Bungaree station, I hope this is OK for you.
Pat 
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Aussielass on Monday 18 February 19 23:52 GMT (UK)
Late 1860's - 1870's for a date.
Thanks Jim for the time frame, it helps with the project we are working on! :)

As you see the standing gentleman can be removed fairly easily, but how would you want the composition to be after removal?  Mr Carey can be repositioned with a different background or the same background can be expanded.  Using the same BG would be time consuming and difficult to look perfect, but could be done.  Do you want the same border area in the vintage look or a solid i.e., white color?  It'll be a fun picture to do, but nice to do it the way you want.  The coloring can be done after all the corrections are finished.
John

Thanks John for your kindly offer of numerous options.  If Neil was repositioned after the removal of the standing gentleman, I would be happy with any kind of background.  I can understand that using the same background would be too time consuming, and seeing it is only a prop used by the photographer it is not necessary to retain it.

The vintage oval frame does give the photo an old feel, but once again, his appearance and clothing is a depiction of the times, as per Jim's estimate, late 1860's - 1870's, so there's no need to keep the frame for authenticity.  I don't know how to restore or colour photo's so I really admire the talents of the clever people on this restoration board.  The only thing I know how to do is crop an image.  :D So, your questions prompted me to crop the photo, which now helps me to explain what I would like.   So, removal of the other gentleman, and a simple background with Neil cleaned up, without the oval frame.  Thank you so much for making me extract my thoughts on what I would really like to see.  Sorry for my drawn out explanation John, you should be a teacher, you made me think clearly about what I would like!  ;D   
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: John-76 on Tuesday 19 February 19 00:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks Aussielass! That's great and I will offer my version, but it'll be tomorrow morning before I can. It's about 8:10 your time now, but I'm on west coast USA time! :( so I don't have enough time tonight to finish like I want. Pat will probably have a great one by then too!
Have a great day!
John
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Trishanne on Tuesday 19 February 19 00:14 GMT (UK)
Aussielass, did you see my restoration and colour???
Pat
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Aussielass on Tuesday 19 February 19 00:23 GMT (UK)
As John says the original background would be difficult to extend. I decided to go for a different background and have put him in front of Bungaree station, I hope this is OK for you.
Pat 
Hi Pat, thanks for your creative version of Neil, it looks great, and the dash of colour brings him to life!  Bungaree station is pretty flashy, in comparison to the hotel Neil took over in the early 1870's, "The Racecourse Hotel" in Black Swamp Road, Bungaree (no longer in existence).  Typical of many country hotels at the time in country towns, older style weatherboard, and in this case, a dirt road out front.  Bungaree would have been a "one horse town" at the time, but still populated probably because of the Ballarat Gold Rush of the 1850's.   Just for interest sake, I'll include a photo, the people in the photo sadly are unknown!  :(     Kind Regards, Aussielass
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: McGroger on Tuesday 19 February 19 01:04 GMT (UK)
My try. :)
Peter
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: McGroger on Tuesday 19 February 19 01:49 GMT (UK)
Square version. :)
Peter
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Trishanne on Tuesday 19 February 19 01:52 GMT (UK)
Aussielass, Just for a laugh, here he is sat outside his own hotel.
Pat
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: a chesters on Tuesday 19 February 19 01:54 GMT (UK)
Pat, they are both brilliant.

Am in awe of what you can do.

AC
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: bitzar on Tuesday 19 February 19 02:44 GMT (UK)
Just saying....

I wonder what happened to the other blokes arm?!?!.... or is it under his Jacket?!?!

Bitzar.
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Aussielass on Tuesday 19 February 19 03:01 GMT (UK)
My try. :)
Peter
Both versions look great Peter, Neil has been cleaned up and repositioned perfectly!  I must add, that I had a chuckle about your renaming of the file - "without unknown friend"  ;D ;D

Aussielass, Just for a laugh, here he is sat outside his own hotel.
Pat
Pat, what can I say, I love your sense of humour, and Neil sitting out the front of his own hotel looks fabulous!!  How clever are you!!!   ;D ;D  It's priceless!!

Thanks again, Peter and Pat,  Kind Regards, Aussielass  :-*
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Aussielass on Tuesday 19 February 19 03:05 GMT (UK)
Just saying....

I wonder what happened to the other blokes arm?!?!.... or is it under his Jacket?!?!

Bitzar.
Yeah, me too Bitzar, I'd love to know!  I feel a bit mean extracting him from the photo, but without knowing who he is, I wanted to stick to Neil on his own, and everyone has done a fabulous job in creating just that!! :)
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: McGroger on Tuesday 19 February 19 05:06 GMT (UK)
Pat, you've inspired me. And seeing how my favourite beer turns 150 this year, I couldn't resist this.

With apologies to Aussielass...

Neil has swapped his pipe for a schooner of beer, and he's acquired a smile and a couple of friends to share his afternoon break.

"Till, charged with ale and unconcern,
"I'll think it's noon at half-past four!" [The last two lines of 'Country Towns' by Kenneth Slessor.]

Peter
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 19 February 19 05:39 GMT (UK)
This photo is excellent.

Aussielass, do you know if Neil had any brothers or cousins? Although the men don't really look alike, and there are many obvious differences, I think they have a similar look about the mouth (or is it just their moustaches?) and the chins are similar, though Neil's face appears rounder though it may be because he is facing the camera a bit more directly. Their left ears (on the right as we look at the photo) also have a similar shape.

It looks like the other chap's arm is under his shirt/jacket, maybe in a sling.  :)
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Aussielass on Tuesday 19 February 19 06:57 GMT (UK)
Pat, you've inspired me. And seeing how my favourite beer turns 150 this year, I couldn't resist this.

With apologies to Aussielass...

Neil has swapped his pipe for a schooner of beer, and he's acquired a smile and a couple of friends to share his afternoon break.

"Till, charged with ale and unconcern,
"I'll think it's noon at half-past four!" [The last two lines of 'Country Towns' by Kenneth Slessor.]

Peter

Peter, no need for an apology, and I'm sure Neil would appreciate this classic pose, especially if it was a stinkin' hot summer afternoon in the land downunder!!  In Summer beer is the best thirst quencher, not that I'm a beer drinker..... but the sight of the cold glass of beer on a hot summer's day has a strong appeal!!   ;D ;D   I love it Peter, just like I did Pat's, plus your file renaming!!  :P :P   

Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 19 February 19 07:00 GMT (UK)
Ummmm. That looks nice! ;D
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Trishanne on Tuesday 19 February 19 11:13 GMT (UK)
AC thank you vey much, it's lovely to receive comments like yours.
Pat
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Trishanne on Tuesday 19 February 19 11:20 GMT (UK)
Aussielass, so pleased you liked the makeover and that the 2nd version gave you a laugh. If at any time you would like the Railway hotel coloured just let us know (with or without Neil  :) :))
Pat
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Aussielass on Tuesday 19 February 19 20:54 GMT (UK)
Aussielass, so pleased you liked the makeover and that the 2nd version gave you a laugh. If at any time you would like the Railway hotel coloured just let us know (with or without Neil  :) :))
Pat

Thanks Pat, I never thought about that, the Railway Hotel would look pretty good in colour.  Do I need to post it separately?  I would love to see it in colour, if you'd like to have a go!  ;D  Now that it no longer exists, it would be nice to bring it back to life again!  I really do appreciate the time and effort you put in to restoring our photos, time is precious and you give up your time and talent generously!  So thank you again!!   :) :D   Kind Regards,  Aussielass
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: John-76 on Tuesday 19 February 19 20:56 GMT (UK)
Here's my attempt.
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Trishanne on Wednesday 20 February 19 01:11 GMT (UK)
Here's my colour version of the Racecourse Hotel
Pat
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: John-76 on Wednesday 20 February 19 01:13 GMT (UK)
Oops!  Mr Carey forgot his chair!  He's going to fall on his rear! ;)
I gotta' learn to pay more attention to detail!
JB
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: John-76 on Wednesday 20 February 19 01:14 GMT (UK)
Here's my colour version of the Racecourse Hotel
Pat

Great colors!  Looks good.
John
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: McGroger on Wednesday 20 February 19 02:00 GMT (UK)
Agree with John. Lovely work, Pat. :D
Peter
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Aussielass on Wednesday 20 February 19 06:32 GMT (UK)
Here's my colour version of the Racecourse Hotel
Pat
Hi Pat, the colours are perfect, and without doubt it has brought the "Racecourse Hotel" back to life.  Thanks for a wonderful job, you have excelled yourself again, I love it.

Kind Regards,  Aussielass  :) :)
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Aussielass on Wednesday 20 February 19 06:34 GMT (UK)
Oops!  Mr Carey forgot his chair!  He's going to fall on his rear! ;)
I gotta' learn to pay more attention to detail!
JB
Hi John, such a lovely version of Neil sitting out the front of his hotel, it looks fabulous!  Thanks and Kind Regards,  Aussielass   :) :)
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Trishanne on Wednesday 20 February 19 11:12 GMT (UK)
Very many thanks to John, Peter and Ausselass for your very kind comments, regarding the colour version of the Racecourse Hotel. It is nice to see these old buildings brought back to life.
Pat
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: Lanty on Monday 22 February 21 05:45 GMT (UK)
Hoping to make contact with the poster of this thread about the Carey photographs.
Neil Carey married my g-grandfather's sister, Catherine Keating so it is possible that the woman in the photograph is Catherine. I was very interested to see images of Neil and the Racecourse Hotel as I haven't seen these before.
Title: Re: Neil Carey constable on Ballarat Goldfields 1854 with unknown friend for cleanup
Post by: japeflakes on Monday 22 February 21 09:30 GMT (UK)
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