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Title: Obituary of Jenkin Williams died 5 January 1887 at the Dinas Steam Colliery
Post by: julefamily on Thursday 21 February 19 03:13 GMT (UK)

Can anyone assist me in locating a obituary - death announcement for

Jenkin Williams (age 24) Born about 1862  died 5 January 1887 in a mining accident at the Dinas Steam Colliery.  He was a haulier and kicked by a horse and fell under loaded trams.  His head was severed from his body.  :'(

Wife: Susannah

Thanks for any assistance.  Would like also to know his grave site.

Title: Re: Obituary of Jenkin Williams died 5 January 1887 at the Dinas Steam Colliery
Post by: giblet on Thursday 21 February 19 04:48 GMT (UK)

I cant read Welsh but going by the name and age it appears this is your fella. Its the only one i can find. Maybe someone can translate for us.

Baner ac Amserau Cymru (Denbigh, Wales),
Wednesday, January 12, 1887

Dydd Mercher, yr wythnos ddiweddaf, cyfarfydd odd Jenkin Williams [24] 153 Concrete Houses Dinas, a damwain angeuol yn nglofa y ?e henw Syrthiodd y trangcedig o dan y gwageni, a thorwyd ei ben yn llwyr oddi wrth ei gorph. Gadawa weddw a dau o blant ar ei ol.

Title: Re: Obituary of Jenkin Williams died 5 January 1887 at the Dinas Steam Colliery
Post by: giblet on Thursday 21 February 19 07:17 GMT (UK)

I used a online translation thingy and got this.

On Wednesday, the last week, Jenkin Williams [24] 153 Concrete Houses Dinas, and an angular crash in his colliery name, fell under the wagons, and his head was cut completely from his crown. Gadawa weddw and two children behind him.

Title: Re: Obituary of Jenkin Williams died 5 January 1887 at the Dinas Steam Colliery
Post by: bevbee on Thursday 21 February 19 16:00 GMT (UK)

Is it angeuriol rather than angeuol? This would be fearful or dire.

"Gadawa weddw" means he left a widow.

Title: Re: Obituary of Jenkin Williams died 5 January 1887 at the Dinas Steam Colliery
Post by: julefamily on Thursday 21 February 19 16:08 GMT (UK)

Thank you so much: Verifies 2 children.  Any mention of final resting burial place?

I am grateful for your help.

Title: Re: Obituary of Jenkin Williams died 5 January 1887 at the Dinas Steam Colliery
Post by: giblet on Thursday 21 February 19 19:31 GMT (UK)

Quote from: bevbee on Thursday 21 February 19 16:00 GMT (UK)

Is it angeuriol rather than angeuol? This would be fearful or dire.

"Gadawa weddw" means he left a widow.

I just checked the article and it has angeuol, tho spelling errors in papers in that era were common.

Thanks for the help to translate  :)

Title: Re: Obituary of Jenkin Williams died 5 January 1887 at the Dinas Steam Colliery
Post by: giblet on Thursday 21 February 19 19:32 GMT (UK)

Quote from: julefamily on Thursday 21 February 19 16:08 GMT (UK)

Thank you so much: Verifies 2 children.  Any mention of final resting burial place?

I am grateful for your help.

That one article is all i could find so no mention of burial place.

Title: Re: Obituary of Jenkin Williams died 5 January 1887 at the Dinas Steam Colliery
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Thursday 21 February 19 19:44 GMT (UK)

Quote from: giblet on Thursday 21 February 19 19:31 GMT (UK)

Quote from: bevbee on Thursday 21 February 19 16:00 GMT (UK)

Is it angeuriol rather than angeuol? This would be fearful or dire.

"Gadawa weddw" means he left a widow.

I just checked the article and it has angeuol, tho spelling errors in papers in that era were common.

Thanks for the help to translate  :)

Should be angheuol - fatal

English language story here - https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4407638/4407641/51/ - near the bottom of the highlighted bit. Almost identical to the Welsh

Title: Re: Obituary of Jenkin Williams died 5 January 1887 at the Dinas Steam Colliery
Post by: julefamily on Saturday 23 February 19 00:45 GMT (UK)

thank you for the great translation of death announcement.   :D Sounds like an awful way to die.

Grateful for your help.

Title: Re: Obituary of Jenkin Williams died 5 January 1887 at the Dinas Steam Colliery
Post by: julefamily on Monday 25 March 19 22:38 GMT (UK)

I still do not have a burial place for my Jenkin Williams: died 5 January 1887 at Dinas steam colliery.   24 years old: estimate birth year 1863.  Wife: Susannah Evans married Pontypridd 2nd quarter of 1883.   2 children Daniel Tynewydd (June 1883) Isaac (Oct 1886),

Anyone that can help me find his final resting place???  ??? ???

Thank you.

Title: Re: Obituary of Jenkin Williams died 5 January 1887 at the Dinas Steam Colliery
Post by: Sam Swift on Wednesday 17 April 19 09:35 BST (UK)

You may already know, but he is buried at Llethr Ddu cemetery Trealaw.

Jenkin was killed at the Dinas Steam Colliery in the Rhondda, South Wales  on  5 January 1887. The coal mine can be seen at  http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/GlamWest/Britannic.htm

Burial internment number 1433 (there are internment records that will give more details of burial if you quote this number). Could contact Pontypridd Library for a copy.

He is buried in Plot J981 which I think may not have a headstone, since he is buried in the same grave as John Henry Parry (Burial 53196), who died in 1949 at 65 yrs old.

Title: Re: Obituary of Jenkin Williams died 5 January 1887 at the Dinas Steam Colliery
Post by: julefamily on Wednesday 17 April 19 14:08 BST (UK)

Thank you Sam Swift.  You are all amazing people to help out strangers.

I did find it thru the kindness of a kind gentleman volunteering at Find a grave.

I will look at the suggested web site you gave me.  I wonder why there was no obituary or newspaper account for his death.  Perhaps. too poor.

Again, I cannot thank you enough.