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Title: Magennis/Scollan/Carroll Family from Lisdoodan, Derrygonnelly
Post by: máiremgt on Thursday 21 February 19 13:28 GMT (UK)
I've been trying to find info on the birth, marriage and death dates of my maternal GM. All I've gleaned so far is that she was born about 1898, married (in Belfast?) about 1930 and died in Lisdoodan (townland) about 1933. She had two children - a boy (died in infancy) and a girl, my mother. I can't find any official records apart from two censuses, although I've seen a copy of Mum's birth certificate which didn't really help (interesting tho). ANY help or pointers would be gratefully received.
Title: Re: Magennis/Scollan/Carroll Family from Lisdoodan, Derrygonnelly
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 21 February 19 14:59 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat,
Have you looked for their certs here (free and has images of the registry books)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
you won't get marriages or deaths on that site if they were in Northern Ireland after 1922.

You need GRONI for Northern Ireland
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/search-gronis-online-records
Title: Re: Magennis/Scollan/Carroll Family from Lisdoodan, Derrygonnelly
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 21 February 19 15:31 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Lisdoodan townland lies south of Derrygonnelly.

https://www.townlands.ie/fermanagh/magheraboy/devenish/lisdoodan/

KG
Title: Re: Magennis/Scollan/Carroll Family from Lisdoodan, Derrygonnelly
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 21 February 19 15:35 GMT (UK)
I've been trying to find info on the birth, marriage and death dates of my maternal GM. All I've gleaned so far is that she was born about 1898, married (in Belfast?) about 1930 and died in Lisdoodan (townland) about 1933. She had two children - a boy (died in infancy) and a girl, my mother. I can't find any official records apart from two censuses, although I've seen a copy of Mum's birth certificate which didn't really help (interesting tho). ANY help or pointers would be gratefully received.




Is her name top secret?
Title: Re: Magennis/Scollan/Carroll Family from Lisdoodan, Derrygonnelly
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 21 February 19 22:12 GMT (UK)
I've been trying to find info on the birth, marriage and death dates of my maternal GM. All I've gleaned so far is that she was born about 1898, married (in Belfast?) about 1930 and died in Lisdoodan (townland) about 1933. She had two children - a boy (died in infancy) and a girl, my mother. I can't find any official records apart from two censuses, although I've seen a copy of Mum's birth certificate which didn't really help (interesting tho). ANY help or pointers would be gratefully received.

You'll only find her in 1901 and 1911 census records. There should also be a birth certificate as well as marriage & death ones but only the birth certificate is old enough to be online. For the other two you can view them on GRONI's website after registering and purchasing a few credits. If you have 1 credit you'll be able to search the index and see name, date, district & sub district (death) or name, dale, spouse's surname & district. For 5 credits you can view the actual certificate (select 'full' as purchase option).
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
Title: Re: Magennis/Scollan/Carroll Family from Lisdoodan, Derrygonnelly
Post by: máiremgt on Thursday 07 March 19 02:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks to everyone who's replied - I've tried pretty much everything suggested but she doesn't seem to exist! Sorry not to mention her name - it's not secret - she was born, I think, according to the censuses, Margaret Jane Carroll ka Maggie last quarter 1898, mother was Mary Magennis. She married Owen Scollan from Glenfarne (I think), in Belfast probably, about 1930, had my mother Sheila in 1931 and a baby boy (PJ?) 1932 or 1933, and died at home in Lisdoodan in 1933 of TB. Baby Boy also died from TB. I'll keep trying the records - maybe with less specific info - and keep my fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Magennis/Scollan/Carroll Family from Lisdoodan, Derrygonnelly
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 07 March 19 11:41 GMT (UK)

Margaret Jane Carroll ka Maggie last quarter 1898, mother was Mary Magennis.
 

Birth 4th September 1898
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02062/1788068.pdf

KG
Title: Re: Magennis/Scollan/Carroll Family from Lisdoodan, Derrygonnelly
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 07 March 19 11:45 GMT (UK)
Death of Margaret, 1933

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

D/1933/113/1013/9/388
Margaret Scollar
17th February 1933, age 32, Female
Enniskillen


KG
Title: Re: Magennis/Scollan/Carroll Family from Lisdoodan, Derrygonnelly
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 07 March 19 11:53 GMT (UK)

 She married Owen Scollan from Glenfarne (I think), in Belfast probably, about 1930......


GRONI Online

M/1930/V1/2613/6/134
Owen Scollan married Margaret Carroll
19th November 1930
Fermanagh R.D.

KG

Title: Re: Magennis/Scollan/Carroll Family from Lisdoodan, Derrygonnelly
Post by: máiremgt on Thursday 07 March 19 12:52 GMT (UK)
Dearest Kiltaglassan, I can't begin to thank you. I don't know what I've been doing wrong but everything I've tried comes up with 'no records exist' or whatever. I've been focusing purely on her dob - I think maybe I've had a sort of mental block about sorting that out first. I'm choked up seeing it all in print. God bless you.
Title: Re: Magennis/Scollan/Carroll Family from Lisdoodan, Derrygonnelly
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 07 March 19 13:19 GMT (UK)
You're very welcome, mairemgt    :)