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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: Steve G on Thursday 21 February 19 19:39 GMT (UK)
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What does the panel think?
Born 10th November, 1700. Billericay Essex. Out of Jo and Mary.
1851 has him living in Pembury Grove, Hackney. Coal Merchant and Undertaker ( :o The mind boggles, any way ye look at it!)
One of ours, settled down and made good? Or, did the posh Gray's go round calling their kids " Nutter " ???
I took a fleeting glimpse at some tree. It was as expected. But, a glaring Cooper caught my eye on this copy paste looking pedigree.
Opinions, please :)
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The one in 1851 was born 1789, and in 1841 is married to a Phillis in Hackney
HO107/699/ 3/10 / 12?
Keyboard86
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Arrrghh!!! Sorry! I completely misread the entry! Those strange characters that look like a bomb with a droopy fuse? :-\ Thought they were " 0 "s. Didn't look much further, as I'm just going on information received.
Either way, he's still a Nutter, and looks to be doing alright.
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Oh, yes; Phyllis is gone, 1851. Just a daughter, Emily, if I'm reading it right? Looks to have a serving girl too!
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??? Hold on! Have I lost the plot, completely? (One really shouldn't be doing this stuff whilst in the least bit distracted!)
Information I was given was:
Nutter Gray. 1841. Billericay, Essex.
b 1788 d 1853 Hackney Middlesex. m Lydia Searle 1813.
Any utter pigs ears since putting in an appearance since? I have to shoulder the full responsibility and public shame! :'(
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??? Hold on! Have I lost the plot, completely? (One really shouldn't be doing this stuff whilst in the least bit distracted!)
Information I was given was:
Nutter Gray. 1841. Billericay, Essex.
b 1788 d 1853 Hackney Middlesex. m Lydia Searle 1813.
Any utter pigs ears since putting in an appearance since? I have to shoulder the full responsibility and public shame! :'(
Lydia Searle could be the transcribed Phillis in 1841 Hackney as they have a son Searle Gray b c 1830, I followed the daughter Emily back from the 1851 census.
Keyboard86
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:) Thanks, Keyboard. I feel really bad now, piling in here, spouting unconfirmed sound bites ~ as I now recognise I have done.
I think I may be experiencing a touch of burn out, in honesty. Been pushing the boundaries a bit, just lately. No longer used to it.
Throttling back a bit then; The basic question is: Did 100% Gaujo lines of Gray call their sons Nutters?
That might be a more clinical way of coming at it?
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Nutter Gray, coal merchant, London Place
Father - Joseph Gray, linen draper
Phillis Atkinson, spinster, Silvester Row
Father - Francis Atkinson, farmer
Marriage 12 Nov 1839 St John, Hackney
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:) Thanks, Mabel.
Not looking good, is it? Linen Drapers, Farmers and Coal Merchants ....?
Fascinated by the use of that given name though. Weird!
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:) Thanks, Mabel.
Not looking good, is it? Linen Drapers, Farmers and Coal Merchants ....?
Fascinated by the use of that given name though. Weird!
And a banker - son of Nutter the coal merchant, b c1815
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Could it be a maiden name of mother or grandmother? I doubt the word had the meaning we give it now.
Jane :-)
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:( Yeppers, Mabel. Just been furthering my own research. Frankly? Were it not for the proof it provides than not All the Grays around there were of any interest? This entire thread would deserve to be nuked from outer space! :-[
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Jane; I never once thought it did suggest the kid was a screw loose ;D
Just that I've never in my life come across it as a given name, before. Upon hearing it, last night? I checked, and found it's said to be a name used by Gypsys going by the Gray surname.
Unfortunately, I leapt to a mouth watering conclusion ::) Big Mistake!
So, now we're left with this tenuous link to this particular board: Did Gypsy Grays use it as a given? Or, have posh Grays been mistaken for Gypsys, in research, before?
Still be nice to settle That one, once and for all. And, as such, I feel a little bit less vile for having brought my BS to this board! ;D