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Title: Devon/Dorset brickwall
Post by: pinefamily on Friday 22 February 19 00:30 GMT (UK)
Hello Rootschatters,
I have hit a bit of a brickwall which I am posting here as it may involve more than one county. This line seemed to jump between the two named counties.
Mods feel free to move if I'm in the wrong section.
I have an Ann Whitlock marrying a  (Rev) William Palmer in 1743 in Luppitt Devon. She was his second wife. In the same year a Mary Whitlock married a Richard Harwood in Luppitt. One of the Harwood sons married one of the Palmer daughters.
I cannot find a baptism for Ann Whitlock, nor a Mary. At this point I am leaning towards them being sisters. There is no other Whitlock entries in Luppitt other than 2 later burials: Hannah in 1765, and Joan in 1779. Joan left a will in the Devon wills, which are no longer available due to bombing in 1942.
I'm hoping someone out there has access to resources I don't that might show baptisms for Ann and Mary Whitlock in wither Devon, Dorset, or possibly even Somerset.
Thanks for reading this.
Title: Re: Devon/Dorset brickwall
Post by: majm on Tuesday 26 February 19 05:40 GMT (UK)
I may have some DEVON resources in book form from researching back in the 1970s ... It could be several weeks before I can check them.

Hopefully other Chatters will have already sorted this out for you by then.

Have you considered posting a brief summary on those county boards and then asking for replies to be made on this one board  :D

JM
Title: Re: Devon/Dorset brickwall
Post by: pinefamily on Tuesday 26 February 19 06:12 GMT (UK)
That's not a bad idea JM. I'll do just that, with a link on each back to this thread as you suggest.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Devon/Dorset brickwall
Post by: majm on Tuesday 26 February 19 07:32 GMT (UK)
 :D

Just a quick online armchair skim .... fingers crossed this will help others to confirm or eliminate these possibles.   

Dorset, Chalbury

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJD4-JB2L
baptism 1 March 1726, Philip WHITLOCK, parents as James WHITLOCK and Ann

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJD4-JBG8
baptism 14 Jan 1729 Anne WHITLOCK, father as James WHITLOCK

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJD4-JJ65
baptism 16 Jan 1731  Mary WHITLOCK, father as James WHITLOCK

Possibility of others with James as the father at Chalbury, Dorset,  and the first one I have listed has the name of James’ wife …. :D  :D

JM
Title: Re: Devon/Dorset brickwall
Post by: pinefamily on Tuesday 26 February 19 22:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks for taking the time, JM. I wouldn't rule them out at this stage, but the baptism dates are a bit late if the two I am looking at married in 1743. Could be late baptisms....
Title: Re: Devon/Dorset brickwall
Post by: ciderdrinker on Wednesday 27 February 19 10:32 GMT (UK)
Hello
Have you looked at the images for Luppitt?
Mr Richard Harwood marries a Mrs Mary Whitelock
and M William Palmer marries M Ann Whitelock
On FindMyPast both are indexed as Mrs Whitelock.
If so yes they may be sisters but they were born with a different surname.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Devon/Dorset brickwall
Post by: hurworth on Wednesday 27 February 19 11:11 GMT (UK)
BTs are here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G93K-LK9S?i=76&cat=1834088

Title: Re: Devon/Dorset brickwall
Post by: pinefamily on Thursday 28 February 19 00:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks Ciderdrinker and Hurworth.
I looked at the BT, and Interestingly the only two entries with either Mr. or Mrs. are those two.
Both husbands came from rather well to do families, so that would account for the Mr. I have seen other instances of single women given "Mrs" in registers, once again usually from families of higher standing. So I'm openminded on that one.
According to Burke's Landed Gentry, William Palmer married a Miss Whitlock as his second wife. No first name, but with some help found the Luppitt marriage.
Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: Devon/Dorset brickwall
Post by: nanny jan on Thursday 28 February 19 09:06 GMT (UK)
Just in case you have not found this site:

http://www.opcdorset.org/index.htm


There is a link to the Devon OPC site at the bottom of the home page.
Title: Re: Devon/Dorset brickwall
Post by: pinefamily on Friday 01 March 19 03:04 GMT (UK)
Thanks Nanny jan. I've already been wading through whatever registers they have for western Dorset.
From what I've read Whitlock appears to be a fairly strong Devon name, so perhaps I might need to expand my searches over the border into Somerset.
Title: Re: Devon/Dorset brickwall
Post by: pinefamily on Friday 15 March 19 05:15 GMT (UK)
An update on my brickwall.
There is a will of a Thomas Tucker dated 1740 that mentions the Whitlock girls. Ann and Mary are sisters, with two more: Grace and Joan. Joan is the burial in 1779. Their mother Hannah is also mentioned in the will. Interestingly she is described as a singlewoman.
At this stage I am not certain if Thomas Tucker was the father (no mention of relationship in the will), as he did leave property and money to the four sisters.
The other point is in the will they are consistently described as now known as Loader, or als Loader.
I'd welcome help with this, or people's thoughts and opinions.