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Title: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 26 February 19 11:29 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I am sorry to ask for another look up but am having little luck with Ancestry and Family Search with my family, their records don't seem to be on there but some lovely people on here have been able to help me with finding records and I wondered if I might prevail on your kindness again please?

Mary and Samuel Simpkins/Simkins seem to have had 4 children in the Brewood area (Mary 1807, Elizabeth 1811, Thomas 1814 and John 1817).
I think (but am still investigating) that Mary married William Austin as a widow in 1825 at Brewood and I think he dies in 1827 and is buried in Bilsdon. She then married as a widow to James Purchase 4 May 1827 and is with him in the 1841 (with John Whittingham grandson - son of her daughter Mary).

Samuel is elusive though as is Mary's marriage to him.
Mary was born around 1874 from the 1841 census and I think she dies in 1851 (PURCHASE, MARY       66  GRO Reference: 1851  S Quarter in PENKRIDGE  Volume 17  Page 69). From this I am guessing Samuel was born around 1780 and married around 1806 assuming Mary was their first child. If Mary who married William Austin is relevant to me then I am guessing Simon died around 1817 to 1825.

Please could someone look to see if there is a birth, marriage and death relevant to Simon (I am trying to find evidence of him and Mary's maiden name).

Thanks for reading through this slightly lengthy post.

Best wishes,
Emma
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: Willow 4873 on Tuesday 26 February 19 11:37 GMT (UK)
Well you confused me with Samuel/Simon but

25.12.1806 SS Mary & Chad Brewood Samuel Simkins widow & Mary Stanton spinster both of the parish witnesses Thomas Stanton and Zach Boyden (Stanton looks like Hanton until you read it properly)

Willow x
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: Willow 4873 on Tuesday 26 February 19 11:42 GMT (UK)
Burial 23.4.1824 SS Mary & Chad Samuel Simkins aged 62 (born c1762)

Willow x
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 26 February 19 11:43 GMT (UK)
There is a burial at Brewood - 23 April 1824

Samuel SiNkins (sic) of Brewood, aged 62.
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: Willow 4873 on Tuesday 26 February 19 11:48 GMT (UK)
The Thomas who is a witness may be Mary's brother

18.4.1773 at SS Mary & Chad Thomas Stanton son of Joseph and Sarah
9.7.1780 at SS Mary & Chad Mary Stanton daughter of Joseph & Sarah

also
17.9.1775 James
29.9.1762 William
30.11.1777 Sarah

Willow x
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 26 February 19 12:01 GMT (UK)
Well you confused me with Samuel/Simon but

25.12.1806 SS Mary & Chad Brewood Samuel Simkins widow & Mary Stanton spinster both of the parish witnesses Thomas Stanton and Zach Boyden (Stanton looks like Hanton until you read it properly)

Willow x

Oh gosh, I confuse myself, you can see why I get in a muddle!!
Thank you very much indeed for finding this, it has got me past the brick wall, I really really appreciate this and the burial information. That is amazing.
Now I know his birth year I will have a look for his christening. This is amazing, thanks again.

Em x
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 26 February 19 12:02 GMT (UK)
There is a burial at Brewood - 23 April 1824

Samuel SiNkins (sic) of Brewood, aged 62.

That is great, thank you ever so much for taking a look :)
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: Willow 4873 on Tuesday 26 February 19 12:02 GMT (UK)
29.6.1762 St Michael & All Angels Penkridge

Joseph Stanton bachelor husbandman to Sarah Newton spinster

burial 16.4.1809 Joseph Stanton at Brewood no age or info given
burial 19.11.1816 Sarah Stanton at Brewood aged 84 (c1732)

Willow x
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 26 February 19 12:03 GMT (UK)
The Thomas who is a witness may be Mary's brother

18.4.1773 at SS Mary & Chad Thomas Stanton son of Joseph and Sarah
9.7.1780 at SS Mary & Chad Mary Stanton daughter of Joseph & Sarah

also
17.9.1775 James
29.9.1762 William
30.11.1777 Sarah

Willow x

This is fantastic and more than I could have hoped for, a whole new part of the family, I am over the moon, thanks you so much :) x
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 26 February 19 12:05 GMT (UK)
29.6.1762 St Michael & All Angels Penkridge

Joseph Stanton bachelor husbandman to Sarah Newton spinster

burial 16.4.1809 Joseph Stanton at Brewood no age or info given
burial 19.11.1816 Sarah Stanton at Brewood aged 84 (c1732)

Willow x

This is amazing, you are a great researcher, my tree now goes back 2 more generations:) Thank you Willow x
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: Willow 4873 on Tuesday 26 February 19 12:14 GMT (UK)
Glad to help FindMyPast seems to have a lot of the Brewood records

also found
burial 23.2.1816 Thomas aged 42
2.2.1816 burial William aged 54

marriage 28.7.1801 Brewood John Hawkins to Sarah Stanton

Willow x
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 26 February 19 12:23 GMT (UK)
Glad to help FindMyPast seems to have a lot of the Brewood records

also found
burial 23.2.1816 Thomas aged 42
2.2.1816 burial William aged 54

marriage 28.7.1801 Brewood John Hawkins to Sarah Stanton

Willow x

Thank you Willow, you help is very much appreciated and this info is amazing. I think when my ancestry membership runs out in July I will switch to FindMyPast  for a bit as I have lots of records that I can't trace and maybe this is the place to find them.

I have been searching Family Search and ancestry for Samuel Simkin's birth around 1762 but can't find anything.

I love the fact that I can now add two new families to my tree.

Thanks again
x
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: Willow 4873 on Tuesday 26 February 19 12:25 GMT (UK)
You might find this link useful then  ;D

https://ia802606.us.archive.org/35/items/brewoodparishreg01brew/brewoodparishreg01brew.pdf

Willow x
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 26 February 19 12:34 GMT (UK)
You might find this link useful then  ;D

https://ia802606.us.archive.org/35/items/brewoodparishreg01brew/brewoodparishreg01brew.pdf

Willow x

Wow, what a fantastic document, hopefully I can get back to 1644 and can then go back to the 1500s using this! That would be brilliant. Thanks again :)
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 26 February 19 12:37 GMT (UK)
Sorry to ask you another question, but is it possible Samuel was born outside of the parish? Was it easy for people to move around Staffordshire around 1762 ?(when my Dorset family moved to Devon in the early 1700s they had to have settlement papers).
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: Willow 4873 on Tuesday 26 February 19 12:57 GMT (UK)
I think people moved around a lot in Staffordshire and I have never seen any mention of settlement papers so it must have been easily done

FindMyPast has the following possible baptisms
27.6.1725 Cannock Samuel Simkin father Sam(uel)
1733 St Mathews Walsall Samuel Simkin parents John and Sarah
17.9.1734 Darlaston Samuel Simkin parents William and Mary

Willow x
Title: Re: Samuel Simkins or Simpkins born c.1780
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 26 February 19 13:04 GMT (UK)
I think people moved around a lot in Staffordshire and I have never seen any mention of settlement papers so it must have been easily done

FindMyPast has the following possible baptisms
27.6.1725 Cannock Samuel Simkin father Sam(uel)
1733 St Mathews Walsall Samuel Simkin parents John and Sarah
17.9.1734 Darlaston Samuel Simkin parents William and Mary

Willow x

Ah OK thank you very much, I guess there was probably more happening in Staffordshire than Dorset! I have noticed that over time, alot of my Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire family moved to Staffordshire, mostly to do mining.
Thanks for looking up the births. I think mine was born c 1762 as these people were born a little earlier Walsall, Darlaston and Cannock might well be places to start looking as they could have come from there (one of them may even be my Samuel's future dad as fornames are often passed on).

Thanks for getting back to me
:) x