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Title: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: Redser8888 on Sunday 03 March 19 16:11 GMT (UK)
Hello all,

I am researching entries in the South Dublin workhouse and cannot make out any of the wording in column 13 under "No of children if not in workhouse and therefore not entered in column 4"  :-\
Here is a selection of what I am seeing. ALL help greatly appreciated!!

Redser
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 03 March 19 16:18 GMT (UK)
The 3 word bits looks like "something for bravery"
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 03 March 19 16:25 GMT (UK)



Lawless for Conway


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Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: Redser8888 on Sunday 03 March 19 16:39 GMT (UK)



Lawless for Conway


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Thanks  :-\ If indeed it reads Lawless for Conway then what exactly does that mean?
under the column re number of children?? I'm mystified
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: Redser8888 on Sunday 03 March 19 16:44 GMT (UK)
The 3 word bits looks like "something for bravery"

Thanks Millepede, as this is the workhouse and these 3 words appears lots of time I don't think it is a reference to bravery.


Redser
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: heywood on Sunday 03 March 19 16:46 GMT (UK)
I thought it was something for ‘brewery’.

It looks as though the headings have been ignored as there seems to be an address in Column 12 rather than a name.
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 03 March 19 16:51 GMT (UK)
I thought the 5th & 7th line said the same thing, I wondered also if the last words began with a "C"
Carol
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: Redser8888 on Sunday 03 March 19 16:56 GMT (UK)
I thought it was something for ‘brewery’.

It looks as though the headings have been ignored as there seems to be an address in Column 12 rather than a name.

My thoughts too Heywood, that the headings have been ignored. However the 4th entry down references a 2 yr old baby girl so brewery wouldn't fit  :-\ Still perplexed
Column 12 says "Cork Street Hospital" and next line down say "Do"

Redser
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: heywood on Sunday 03 March 19 17:25 GMT (UK)
I can see it is hospital now  but still not the right notes in that column. :-\
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: Redser8888 on Sunday 03 March 19 17:34 GMT (UK)
I can see it is hospital now  but still not the right notes in that column. :-\
yup!  ???
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: Bookbox on Sunday 03 March 19 18:42 GMT (UK)
From general experience with workhouse registers, I would say that the column-heading in this case is irrelevant. These are probably the names of the people who ordered the paupers' admission to the workhouse. At least three of them seem to be Master (of the workhouse). The others will probably be the surname of the relieving officer for the relevant district, or someone acting on his behalf (Lawless for Conway?).
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: shanreagh on Sunday 03 March 19 20:56 GMT (UK)
From general experience with workhouse registers, I would say that the column-heading in this case is irrelevant. These are probably the names of the people who ordered the paupers' admission to the workhouse. At least three of them seem to be Master (of the workhouse). The others will probably be the surname of the relieving officer for the relevant district, or someone acting on his behalf (Lawless for Conway?).

Another name might be Bailon or Barton?
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: Redser8888 on Monday 04 March 19 17:41 GMT (UK)
From general experience with workhouse registers, I would say that the column-heading in this case is irrelevant. These are probably the names of the people who ordered the paupers' admission to the workhouse. At least three of them seem to be Master (of the workhouse). The others will probably be the surname of the relieving officer for the relevant district, or someone acting on his behalf (Lawless for Conway?).

Another name might be Bailon or Barton?

 :-* Eureka!! I went and searched the 1911 census for "relieving officer" Dublin and found "Corway" South Dublin Union (workhouse)

Thank you so much for your advice!!!

Redser
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 04 March 19 17:54 GMT (UK)

Great work Bookbox and well done Redser.  ;D

KG
Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: hallmark on Monday 04 March 19 18:55 GMT (UK)
From general experience with workhouse registers, I would say that the column-heading in this case is irrelevant. These are probably the names of the people who ordered the paupers' admission to the workhouse. At least three of them seem to be Master (of the workhouse). The others will probably be the surname of the relieving officer for the relevant district, or someone acting on his behalf (Lawless for Conway?).

Another name might be Bailon or Barton?

 :-* Eureka!! I went and searched the 1911 census for "relieving officer" Dublin and found "Corway" South Dublin Union (workhouse)

Thank you so much for your advice!!!

Redser



Did you find Lawless?   ;D


Title: Re: South Dublin Workhouse writing - help needed deciphering please
Post by: Redser8888 on Monday 04 March 19 21:52 GMT (UK)
From general experience with workhouse registers, I would say that the column-heading in this case is irrelevant. These are probably the names of the people who ordered the paupers' admission to the workhouse. At least three of them seem to be Master (of the workhouse). The others will probably be the surname of the relieving officer for the relevant district, or someone acting on his behalf (Lawless for Conway?).

Another name might be Bailon or Barton?

 :-* Eureka!! I went and searched the 1911 census for "relieving officer" Dublin and found "Corway" South Dublin Union (workhouse)

Thank you so much for your advice!!!

Redser



Did you find Lawless?   ;D

no Lawless in Ireland hahaha