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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: suzie9 on Monday 04 March 19 11:45 GMT (UK)
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Am trying to find where in Ireland Louisa Kernen was born and the rest of her family.
I know she married George Cadle in Liverpool in 1875. The certificate states that her father John was deceased and he was a grocer by trade. The marriage was witnessed by a Robert Kernen - maybe brother.
However, I cannot find who her mother was or where they came from in Ireland or what year they came over to Liverpool.
Any help or ideas of how to solve this greatly appreciated. Many thanks
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Possible match for her brother below ?
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Marriage: 14 Jul 1890 St Cuthbert, Everton, Lancashire, England
Robert James Kernen - 31, Sailor, Bachelor, 4 Viceroy Street
Elizabeth Wynn - (X), 24, Spinster, 4 Viceroy Street
Groom's Father: John Kernen, Deceased, Shop Keeper
Bride's Father: James Wynn, Sailor
Witness: Charles Parkin; Sophia Griffiths
Married by Banns by: Henry Lionel James Vicar.
Register: Marriages 1878 - 1899, Page 103, Entry 205
Source: LDS Film 2147911
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Thank you for the info. I hadn't come across it before. :)
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There is a John Kernan grocer (aged 80) died in 1873 at 88 Camden St, Dublin. Listed as a widower.
There is an Elizabeth Kernan dead, also in Dublin South, 1871 death which it might be worth ordering the cert for.
Elizabeth Kernan
Group Registration ID N/R
SR District/Reg Area Dublin South
Deceased Age at Death 56
Returns Year 1871
Returns Quarter 4
Returns Volume No 17
Returns Page No 511
If you think that John might be 'yours', they were a well known family.
See http://www.dublincity.ie/image/libraries/dixon-016 (http://www.dublincity.ie/image/libraries/dixon-016)
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This may be a complete red herring but...
There are two baptisms in Aghada in Co. Cork in May 1863
LINK to Church record (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632834#page/142/mode/1up)
On the 17th Robert s/o John KERNAN and Georgina SMITH
Sponsors: Michael HURLEY & Mary MEADE
and on the 25th Louisa d/o John KERNAN and Georgina SMITH
Sponsors: William BARRY & Honoria HOLMES
There is also a William baptised aged about 12 in 1855
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There is this entry in 1881 although the age of Robert does not fit with the age of the Robert who married Elizabeth Wynn. He is with a brother John and family.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-DQ24
There are birth records which show that John Kernen’s wife could be Kate Burke.
The baptism of Catherine Kernan 1874 shows Robert Kernan as her Godfather.
This could be Robert’s wife Elizabeth in 1911 with a son Robert
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWT7-H4M
Whilst there is a married Robert born abt 1854 in the Workhouse
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWTH-X9X
Birthplace shown as Queenstown, Cork.
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Forgot to post that there is a birth 1874
Georgina Kate Kernan mmn Burke - might this be Catherine in the baptism record.
Interesting first name re the record myluck posted.
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Marriage September 1873 Liverpool vol 8b pg 485
John Kernen and Catherine Burke
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These might have nothing to do with your Louisa but I thought you might want to consider them.
In 1891 2971/108
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:73GW-NN2
John F Kernan and Kate also have a sister Georgina Potter b Ireland with them and her children.
Child George shows mmn Cearns
1911 shows John F Kernan b Whitegate, Cork as inmate.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWTH-K4V
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Thank you everyone. Fresh eyes have certainly given me plenty to investigate further.