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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: cockney rebel on Monday 04 March 19 18:42 GMT (UK)
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Hi there
I'm stuck again!
Although the entry is really quite legible, I am not sure what the name of the boy is
Entry 16
Knut Waldemar Alfred...or Alphons?
Kurt?
Paul?
Any clarity on the matter very appreciated, the rest of the entry I can read.
Many thanks
Rebel
PS Sorry the image isn't too sharp, it's not in the original either and I had to downsize anyway.
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I see it as Paúl-Waldemar Alford.
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Thanks for your response.
Yes, I find Paul much more likely but Alford sounds like the name of a butler !
The surname is PLATH.
Paul Plath?
I'm trying to clarify the name in order to research the chap further.
I can't find another reference to him anywhere
Sigh...
Cheers
Rebel
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Could it be Alfreid rather than Alford?
JJ
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hi JJ
yes, I think ALfred more likely...or Alfons? Alphons?
The more I look at an entry the harder it becomes.
Either I "get it" straight away or go roundin circles for days and then redort to Rootschat help.
Community effort!
Rebel
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Not Alphons. The terminal letter is just like the terminal 'd' in Gottfried, further down the page.
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Looks like Knut Waldemar [Alfred/Alford ] Pfath. I did wonder if it was Haut but the H/K is slightly different to a H that occurs on the page.
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Paul Waldemar Alfred.
If you check Sütterlin you can see that he wrote some of the letters that way.
Regards Peonie
Added: should have said Kurrent Schrift. Sütterlin came a bit later and mostly just changed the slanting of the letters.
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I'd go for Paul-Waldemar Alfred.
To begin with, I thought it might be Raul, but that would not have been typical for Germany at that time. (Which, I suppose, wouldn't rule it out completely, though...)
I also wondered about Saul.
The first letter is not the same as the "P" in the surname (Plath).
Having said that, it's not the same as the "R" in "Recklinghausen", either. Or "Reichwein" in entry 17, come to that.
And it certainly doesn't look like the "S" in e.g "Sophie" in entry 19.
So I'd go for Paul, with the scribe being slightly inconsistent with letter formation.
Heaven knows I'm one to talk, as far as THAT is concerned..! ;D
Best regards,
Karen
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Karen, thankyou for your input.
I think Paul is the most logical answer although Saul didn't even occur to me but also possible.
I've tried checking the other entries and comparing the letters but our scribe here is simply not consistent!
The other 2 sons were named Carl and Max....somehow a Knut just wouldn't have fit in with that!
Thanks
Rebel
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I'm not sure what it says but according to Wiki
"Knut is a Norwegian, Swedish, German & Dutch first name......"
I don't know why there would be an umlaut (the 2 dots) over the u but I've never seen it over the name Paul in German either.
Personally I think it could be either ???
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The 2 Little dots is actually a hook, to differentiate between the letter n and u which are the same in Kurrent/Sütterlin and also a lazily written e.
Regards Peonie
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The 2 Little dots is actually a hook, to differentiate between the letter n and u which are the same in Kurrent/Sütterlin and also a lazily written e.
Regards Peonie
Thank you for explaining, Peonie, it was puzzling me ::) :)
Pat
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My first thought was Knut. Final name looks like Alford to me.
Wiggy
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I've enlarged it and I see it as:
Knut Waldamer Alfrad
It's not Paul as the first letter is very different from the P in Peter ( add - and Plath)
Gadget
Added - after another search through the page, I'm not sure that the f in Alfrad is an f - could it be a p? There is a loop on the down stroke of the other fs.
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All over the pages the letters were mixed. I have enclosed a site where you can check and see it is Paul. Everybody adds their own characteristics to forming the letters. I do, specially with "s", it can be different in one word.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurrent
Regards Peonie
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Please ALL - believe Peonie. ;)
It is Paul-Waldemar Alfred!
And I say too. ;D
We learned that writing at school.